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1290 power wheelies

Postby pigpenracing » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:13 am

Whats up guys?
I just turned 550 miles yesterday on my new 1290. I am trying to figure out all the talk about 4th gear power wheelies on this bike. I have ridden almost everything and this is the easiest bike to wheelie on. I ride wheelies every time I take off. My riding is mostly in sport mode with traction control turned off. My bike will stand straight up in second gear when I twist the throttle. I can shift to 3rd and 4th and keep it up. Now if I am riding in 3rd and twist the throttle it may do a little wheelie but nothing like second. 4th gear roll on wheelie???? NO WAY. There is no possible way my bike will do a wheelie in 4th by just twisting the throttle. So where is all this talk coming from that these bikes do insane 4th gear power wheelies? Just curious... I could see it with it geared down but no way stock. Am I missing something? Do you guys see the same as me on your bikes?
I am really impressed by the bike and it is my all time favorite.

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby DMacL » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:59 am

Third gear power up is easy enough, ~60mph give the front end a bounce and whack the throttle open.

4th gear needs a bump in the road and lots of throttle.

Oh and I have the Akra system fitted which makes a bit of a difference, I didn't really try to wheelie it much with the stock exhaust still on so can't compare. It definitely revs easier and harder with the Akra though.

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby jemook » Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:07 pm

You need to unlock the 4th gear wheelies...

In the tool kit that comes in the boot of the bike there are 2 flux capacitors. One is blue and the other red. DO NOT USE THE RED ONE.

Take the blue flux capacitor and plug it into the GPU and perform the 15 minute reset by leaving the exhaust on and keeping the engine revs at 3500 rpm. I find a bit of sticky tape on the throttle helps to keep it at the right revs but make sure you keep an eye on it in case the it unsticks.

I can post pics tomorrow if you'd like.

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby pigpenracing » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:08 pm

Ha! Ha!
Yep, just wondering why people hype stuff up all the time. All the reviews say power wheelies in any gear. Yea right! It is awesome but not that awesome.

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby Redcar525 » Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:25 pm

My front wheel doesn't like staying on the ground. 4th gear with a bump in the road, if I'm not up on the tank the wheel gets light. I leave TC on almost all the time. The front still comes up. I've had the TC light up AND the front wheel off the ground at the same time. Dozens of times. It's addictive and fun!

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby dannyk » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:20 pm

I leave TC on all the time. I am not a good wheelier on a street bike. Even on my Speed Triple that was supposed to be wheelie addicted. Anyway, even with TC on I can get the front end up a few inches while accelerating HARD when I pull 4th. Has to be good traction and sitting back and past the magical 6000-7000 rpm.

I've done some controlled wheelies with TC off but usually I'm too scared with the thoughts of flipping or violently getting pitched off because the 1290 torque is so awesome that my clutch finger and foot can't react quick enough on the brake.

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby robertkehl » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:41 pm

Mine went up several times in forth gear w. Stock exhaust. It will do it when the air mixture out side is just right. Of course you need to be at the right rpm for it to surprise you. :)
The 1290 is what the 990 was suppose to be.


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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby ebags » Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:26 am

Mine lift off power in 7th gear... you my friend, have a dud.
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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby robertkehl » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:35 am

ebags wrote:Mine lift off power in 7th gear... you my friend, have a dud.


So far I've only done power wheelies in 1st through 4th gear. Some day when I get the courage to shift out of 4th gear, I will have to work my way up to a 7th gear power wheelie. :)
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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby Bermo KTM » Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:56 am

yep , you must have a Friday bike , mine power wheelies in 4th :)

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby oczer79 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:43 am

Mine gets very light in 4th and would require a small bump in the road to lift. In 3rd all i need is pin it at less then 120kph
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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby Stratkat » Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:25 pm

pigpenracing wrote:Ha! Ha!
Yep, just wondering why people hype stuff up all the time. All the reviews say power wheelies in any gear. Yea right! It is awesome but not that awesome.


geez man, my 990 wheelies off crests in 4th and 5th sometimes, it will wheelie in 3rd off the throttle if you get your timing right and i pretty much suck at wheelies!
im sure the 1290 has much more potential

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby pigpenracing » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:02 pm

I am talking about flip over backwards 3rd and 4th power wheelies. Not weanie 1 footers. So you guys can just nail it in 4th and flip over backwards?

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby cdlabate » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:25 pm

Helium in the front tyre and a 9volt power adapter helps significantly.
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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby Tripped1 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:47 pm

pigpenracing wrote:I am talking about flip over backwards 3rd and 4th power wheelies. Not weanie 1 footers. So you guys can just nail it in 4th and flip over backwards?



No idea, I know it gets pretty high if I hit forth at the top of the tach, but I haven't tried to wheelie after I hit fourth.....I've seen the TC light up a LOT though when flogging it.

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby DMacL » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:59 pm

I dunno about flipping off the throttle but hit a bump wrong and it comes up "OH SHIT" fast.

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby pigpenracing » Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:37 pm

I guess everything feels slow after driving a 2000 plus HP blown alcohol drag car and riding a turbo bike in the past.
My impression of a 4th gear power wheelie is twisting the throttle at 110mph and riding it straight up to 150mph, not hitting a bump and getting a little air under the tyre. LOL!

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby Don » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:53 pm

pigpenracing wrote:I guess everything feels slow after driving a 2000 plus HP blown alcohol drag car and riding a turbo bike in the past.
My impression of a 4th gear power wheelie is twisting the throttle at 110mph and riding it straight up to 150mph, not hitting a bump and getting a little air under the tyre. LOL!


On a bike like you describe death or serious injury usually follows :wink:

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby robertkehl » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:40 am

pigpenracing wrote:I guess everything feels slow after driving a 2000 plus HP blown alcohol drag car and riding a turbo bike in the past.
My impression of a 4th gear power wheelie is twisting the throttle at 110mph and riding it straight up to 150mph, not hitting a bump and getting a little air under the tyre. LOL!


Could not imagine being able to control such a bike in the corners. There is such thing as too much power with out rider aids. They say the 1290 throttle is still dumb downed even with the traction control off.
The 1290 is what the 990 was suppose to be.


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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby pigpenracing » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:52 am

So what's all the hype about 4th gear power wheelies if it can't do it. That's what I expected after reading all the posts. I was thinking something was wrong with my bike, guess not. Sure I can get a 2 inch 4th gear wheelie over a freaking bump. LOL!

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby robertkehl » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:25 am

pigpenracing wrote:So what's all the hype about 4th gear power wheelies if it can't do it. That's what I expected after reading all the posts. I was thinking something was wrong with my bike, guess not. Sure I can get a 2 inch 4th gear wheelie over a freaking bump. LOL!


When mine came up I was at a higher rpm and doing a indicated 75mph plus. No bump was present, and it came up like a 2nd gear wheelie. I just came out of a sweeper turn in 4th and wacked the throttle open and it came right up about a 1 1/2 ft. TC was on and in sport mode so traction control stopped it from going any higher. I am sure it would of continued skyward if allowed. I could feel the torque pulling it up with ease. Can't wait till I get the full Akrapovic system. :)
The 1290 is what the 990 was suppose to be.


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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby Don » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:36 am

Here is a thought, how much do you weigh pig and rob, and what was your body position like when you both tried it. That may answer your questions.

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby robertkehl » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:18 am

220lb and leaning on the tank. Dude the bike has the power. You just have to have the right rpm. And have the ability to wack it open. But if you're afraid of wheelie it will never happen. Your to negative, you have to believe. Or may be you got a lemon. :)
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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby pigpenracing » Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:02 am

Afraid to wheelie? I get it up in second and shift to 3rd and ride it to redline. Mine will not wheelie in 4th. I have tried all rpm and my throttle is always open to the stop. I am going to ride with another guy that has a 1290 also and compare. I have also been told the dealer reflashes the Ecu at first service?????
Not sure? I am 220 also. Last ride I was in 4th and pulled in the clutch, pinned the throttle wide open and dumped the clutch. No wheelie happened.
I am no expert but have been on bikes for 30 years and always ride wheelies on them all, not scared.

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby Don » Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:14 am

pigpenracing wrote:Afraid to wheelie? I get it up in second and shift to 3rd and ride it to redline. Mine will not wheelie in 4th. I have tried all rpm and my throttle is always open to the stop. I am going to ride with another guy that has a 1290 also and compare. I have also been told the dealer reflashes the Ecu at first service?????
Not sure? I am 220 also. Last ride I was in 4th and pulled in the clutch, pinned the throttle wide open and dumped the clutch. No wheelie happened.
I am no expert but have been on bikes for 30 years and always ride wheelies on them all, not scared.


Hard dump in 4th and no wheelie doesn't sound right to me :?

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