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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby Stratkat » Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:50 pm

id wager you arent opening the throttle fast enough. makes a huge diff at least on the 990.

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby robertkehl » Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:52 pm

pigpenracing wrote:Afraid to wheelie? I get it up in second and shift to 3rd and ride it to redline. Mine will not wheelie in 4th. I have tried all rpm and my throttle is always open to the stop. I am going to ride with another guy that has a 1290 also and compare. I have also been told the dealer reflashes the Ecu at first service?????
Not sure? I am 220 also. Last ride I was in 4th and pulled in the clutch, pinned the throttle wide open and dumped the clutch. No wheelie happened.
I am no expert but have been on bikes for 30 years and always ride wheelies on them all, not scared.
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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby robertkehl » Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:55 pm

pigpenracing wrote:Afraid to wheelie? I get it up in second and shift to 3rd and ride it to redline. Mine will not wheelie in 4th. I have tried all rpm and my throttle is always open to the stop. I am going to ride with another guy that has a 1290 also and compare. I have also been told the dealer reflashes the Ecu at first service?????
Not sure? I am 220 also. Last ride I was in 4th and pulled in the clutch, pinned the throttle wide open and dumped the clutch. No wheelie happened.
I am no expert but have been on bikes for 30 years and always ride wheelies on them all, not scared.


Yep, it must be your bike. :)
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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby pigpenracing » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:36 pm

Maybe it has something to do with the high humidity and 100 degree Texas heat?

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby robertkehl » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:02 pm

pigpenracing wrote:Maybe it has something to do with the high humidity and 100 degree Texas heat?


I think so. My bikes run best at 65-70 degrees. And that's when the front end comes up the most.
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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby robban75 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:52 pm

I must have a lemon too then,.. If I whack it wide open in fourth it becomes light...and that's it!
No wheelies in fourth and definitely not in fifth!!!
It pulls hard but at 150kph my old bmw330d felt more exiting
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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby robertkehl » Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:28 pm

robban75 wrote:I must have a lemon too then,.. If I whack it wide open in fourth it becomes light...and that's it!
No wheelies in fourth and definitely not in fifth!!!
It pulls hard but at 150kph my old bmw330d felt more exiting


I want one those. Bmw330d. Any one want to trade? :)
Come on guys. If you want Linear throttle buy the 990. It was designed for full on power. But not smooth around the edges. If you want smooth power that you can ride all day, then buy the 1290.

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When the turner map junkies get the 1290 figured out you will be able to have both.
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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby gray rider » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:57 pm

Holy crap! If I pinned the throttle wide open and dumped the clutch on mine in fourth gear I would be dead! Third gear 7500 revs bang into fourth and front wheel is off the ground for longer than my nerve holds out. I'm still on the stock exhaust waiting for the full system to show up but the bike has got more power than I have nerve. Fun! Fun! Fun!

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby HYPERMOTO » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:36 pm

I often have this conversation with my mates and there is always a difference of opinion on what constitutes a "wheelie" but for what it's worth I will share my own opinion. It is true to say that my 1290 will happily lift the front over a crest in 4th or 5th but I don't really class that as a "wheelie as it is just hovering about 1 or 2 feet above the tarmac. If it came up high I would find it difficult to settle it in and maintain it over a distance. My method is to set off as normal in first gear accelerating gently then when I am ready to change into second I shut the throttle a fraction before pulling in the clutch which dips the front slightly then I shift into second and whack open the throttle and dump the clutch simultaneously using the rebound of the forks to send the front skyward up to the balancing point, when I am settled in (only a few seconds) I select third then when settled into third I select fourth and enjoy the ride for as long as I can keep it up. I never look at the speedo and I ALWAYS keep my foot over the rear brake just in case it gets past the balancing point and I have a slight chance of saving it albeit at the expense of a set of head bearings and bruised bollocks! I haven't been able to get it into 5th yet but I will keep trying
I am sure that this method won't suit everyone but it has worked for me for 30 plus years on pretty much everything wether it's a 125 dirt bike or a 1000 superbike.
One thing I have noticed on this bike is that the front wheel stops spinning virtually as soon as I get it up to the balancing point so even if you only manage a short wheelie the front tyre makes a lot of noise when it makes contact with the tarmac. My only worry is that one day I will land it on some oil or diesel and it will have me off!!
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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby ktmguy » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:22 am

Well I tried this today. It has the akra map loaded and I ride in sport mode.
Wheelie throttle only in 3rd gear, yes. In 4th gear yes!!! :shock: 5th gear lifts at 9000rpm with tc on and keeps floating... so yes.... :shock: :shock: :shock:
Flat road no crests! hayabusa next to me couldn't keep up till I backed off as it hurt my neck ...


The akra map feels actually less exiting but it does pull hard and smooth, a bit deceiving!
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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby robertkehl » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:57 am

ktmguy wrote:Well I tried this today. It has the akra map loaded and I ride in sport mode.
Wheelie throttle only in 3rd gear, yes. In 4th gear yes!!! :shock: 5th gear lifts at 9000rpm with tc on and keeps floating... so yes.... :shock: :shock: :shock:
Flat road no crests! hayabusa next to me couldn't keep up till I backed off as it hurt my neck ...


The akra map feels actually less exiting but it does pull hard and smooth, a bit deceiving!


I new I couldn't be the only one with a wheelie machine. :) I was having so much fun power wheeling out of the corners today. Can't wait to get my full Akrapovic system so I can do more wheelies. :)
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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby Bermo KTM » Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:40 am

robban75 wrote:I must have a lemon too then,.. If I whack it wide open in fourth it becomes light...and that's it!
No wheelies in fourth and definitely not in fifth!!!
It pulls hard but at 150kph my old bmw330d felt more exiting

I have heard some crap in my time but that last comment is pretty hard to beat :lol:

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby robban75 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:06 am

Sure my 1290 is faster but it doesn't feel all that exiting, it is not that monster they said it was.
I will put on a 16t sprocket when I get home from my vacation, want to load the acra map as well but I hate my dealer and are not willing to spend anything there.
Haven't really tried to make it go up in 9000rpm as it hits the limiter in no time at all from there.
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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby ferret990 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:33 am

Careful what you wish for robban75.
I had a track day yesterday (Akra map, Bodis, DNA filter, 16T), full on 4th gear wheelies on main straight were embarrassing.
I will probably go back to 17T when I fit the new airbox and PCV; the thing will get to redline too quick.
Alright for the IL4 guys, but we only have 10k rpm to play with.

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby Tripped1 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:17 pm

ferret990 wrote:Careful what you wish for robban75.
I had a track day yesterday (Akra map, Bodis, DNA filter, 16T), full on 4th gear wheelies on main straight were embarrassing.
I will probably go back to 17T when I fit the new airbox and PCV; the thing will get to redline too quick.
Alright for the IL4 guys, but we only have 10k rpm to play with.



Of course I have more trust at 6000 RPM then the I-4 guys have at 10 :mrgreen:

I was behind a couple guys on 600s that were banging up and down through three gears between corners, I was shifting 2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3 for the most part.

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby ferret990 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:22 pm

Yep, it's quite a thing, that torque.
When I got off the track yesterday I had forgiven KTM for the rear wheel thing.....kissed and made up :P

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby ferret990 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:28 pm

Tripped1 wrote:I was behind a couple guys on 600s
:shock:

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby robban75 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:33 pm

It's really nice on the tracks, tried to go through the corners in fourth gear but the torque was so powerful I could feel the rear drift away on every stroke, 3-4 gear was almost the only gears I used and occasionally fifth gear.
Love that torque but wouldn't cry if someone gave me more.
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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby ktmguy » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:08 pm

ferret990 wrote:
Tripped1 wrote:I was behind a couple guys on 600s
:shock:


+1 very :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby fatbob » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:56 am

Dependant on the track , passing a decent rider on a 600 is no mean feat :shock:

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby Tripped1 » Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:44 pm

ktmguy wrote:
ferret990 wrote:
Tripped1 wrote:I was behind a couple guys on 600s
:shock:


+1 very :oops: :oops: :oops:

Who said I stayed there :mrgreen:

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby pigpenracing » Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:22 am

Today I went through all the suspension settings. I weigh 220 and the bike still had the factory settings. I tightened the rear spring preload 3 full turns and set everything to sport by the book. WOW! What a huge difference. It handles and rides much nicer. It now does 3rd gear power wheelies! Just twist it and it will stand straight up. Before the suspension was so soft it just soaked it up. I am having a ball now!

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby sexparty » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:17 pm

Right RPMs and it'll do it. Done it at 180kmph in 4th. I only weigh 70kg though.

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby Don » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:21 pm

sexparty wrote:Right RPMs and it'll do it. Done it at 180kmph in 4th. I only weigh 70kg though.


Rider weight shouldn't be a deciding factor depending on body position, in fact weighing more would be a benefit if you sit back.

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Re: 1290 power wheelies

Postby sexparty » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:56 am

Don wrote:Rider weight shouldn't be a deciding factor depending on body position, in fact weighing more would be a benefit if you sit back.


In the full tuck with my weight over the front end I'd think an extra 20kg would make a difference but whatever...

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