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990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby stalker » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:08 pm

that is all
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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby Superdan » Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:23 pm

I think the battle ground is Cadwell......if the 1290 boys can step away from the sepia Instagram shots and rim decals and put the mochafrapprachino down it could happen.

i think they are all torque.....

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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby Sarasota_Steve » Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:28 pm

Man, I had heard about you.

I think this is what the forum needed.

Some newly reinvigorated British blood.

Just in case, this Argie is going to mosey on down ... whistling a nice Stones song to try to blend in ..... :P
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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby Woody80 » Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:19 pm

stalker wrote:that is all

My 990 was quicker round Portimao as well. Just saying

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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby murphc13 » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:49 am

Nothing wrong with going for a cappuccino in a full set of Dainese leathers with your 1290 alongside ;)
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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby Mr_Trecolareco » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:53 am

My boss just bought a 1290...so far he's so slow ( first bike in over 15 years lol ) I have to agree :mrgreen: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby Scotty » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:40 am

Will any 1290 riders dare venture out at Cadwell on 8/9 August and survive the mauling by the assembled 990s? :shock:
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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby gotswap » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:26 pm

Funny!! Kinda off topic..... Same thing happened with the Honda S2000 here in the US when they went from AP1 to AP2, bit bigger engine and lower redline. "Which is better" argument to this day :)
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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby Mr_Trecolareco » Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:29 pm

gotswap wrote:Funny!! Kinda of topic..... Same thing happened with the Honda S2000 here in the US when they went from AP1 to AP2, bit bigger engine and lower redline. "Which is better" argument to this day :)


+290cc +50hp + TC + ABS etc etc is a bigger diference than going 2 litre to 2.2 with same HP and only +10ft lb torque
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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby murphc13 » Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:40 pm

Riding a more powerful animal around a track is more difficult!!Setting a better time on the 990 may be easier

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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby gotswap » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:10 pm

Mr_Trecolareco wrote:
gotswap wrote:Funny!! Kinda of topic..... Same thing happened with the Honda S2000 here in the US when they went from AP1 to AP2, bit bigger engine and lower redline. "Which is better" argument to this day :)


+290cc +50hp + TC + ABS etc etc is a bigger diference than going 2 litre to 2.2 with same HP and only +10ft lb torque


Someone who knows S2000's.......touché

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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby BrandonH » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:19 pm

Pretty funny topic.

One ride on an uncorked 1290 (Full system, Intake, Remap) and you will be like ......... what 990? :wink:

Im sure those of you who say 1290's suck probably haven't even ridden one.

the 990 is a great bike,dont get me wrong, but the 1290 is a much better bike, all around. Its night and day.
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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby DribbleDuke » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:04 pm

So now "much better" than great is "night and day"? It seems like it should be apples and oranges.
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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby gotswap » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:11 pm

DribbleDuke wrote:So now "much better" than great is "night and day"? It seems like it should be apples and oranges.


Agree 100%!! I came from the 990 and now the 1290, they are not even close to being the same machine
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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby BrandonH » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:41 pm

DribbleDuke wrote:So now "much better" than great is "night and day"? It seems like it should be apples and oranges.


Have you ever ridden a 1290?
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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby stalker » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:10 pm

just not seen anyone quick on a 1290 even with all the cheat settings(rider aids)

i mean if your a man its a 990 you need ................if your bleeding out once a month then the 1290 is where its at sweetie
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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby DribbleDuke » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:09 am

BrandonH wrote:
DribbleDuke wrote:So now "much better" than great is "night and day"? It seems like it should be apples and oranges.


Have you ever ridden a 1290?

I think you missed my point. Night and day are opposites, much better the great is hyperbole.
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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby FasYankee » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:36 am

The timing of this thread couldn't have been better.....my buddy works at the local Honda/KTM/Husqvarna dealership and we just had this text convo:


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This thread assisted me in my decision.......990 is staying. :mrgreen:

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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby SUPER DUKE #1 » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:30 am

^^^^^+1 I wish that KTM would do a retro 1050 Super Duke with the soul of the 990 SD including the same seat and seating position/ergo's of the original 990 SD and limited techno-wiz. ABS that you could turn off wouldn't be bad for me but an up and down shift quick shifter would be nice and that's it. Have to have high mounted twice-pipe cans and no rear step up seat. And a retro-ish headlight mask like the 990 SD. IMO there was a need for a 1290 Super Duke with all of the tech to reach some new customers but there was also a need to keep the traditional Super hooligan Duke 990 and to just add a little power with the 1050. I'll be keeping my 990 Super Duke and probably look into another brand if I want a tech bike. I find nothing unique or innovative on the 1290 Super Duke that wasn't or isn't on another brand motorcycle. The raw soul and spirit of the original 990 Super Duke is something the other manufactures can't reproduce and even KTM failed with the new SD to keep it alive.

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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby lc4 » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:23 am

4 Years on the 990 with a average of 5000km per year
1 Year on the 1290 and 10000km
I liked the 990
I love the 1290 :D

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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby The Gin Reaper » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:33 am

I start this by saying i have not ridden one..

At the beginning of the year I met someone in Jerez who had tried both the 990 and the 1290...... he described getting off the 990 onto the 1290 as like getting off a 990 onto a honda. Now I'm sure that the 1290 is probably a better machine but i'm not sure i like the idea of riding something civilised..... I would love to try one setup properly for the track but i would be disappointed if it railed around corners with the stability of a sports bike - i love the nervous aggression of the 990 and every time i get off my 05 zx10 track bike back onto the SD i realise how glad i am to have kept it.

Efficiency versus brutish, aggressive, twitchy enthusiasm ....... i'll take the latter any day......
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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby Sarasota_Steve » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:00 pm

The Gin Reaper wrote:
Efficiency versus brutish, aggressive, twitchy enthusiasm ....... i'll take the latter any day......


I had a buddy of mine ride my SDR for the first time a year ago, and his opinion when he got off the bike was: "Man, it is ... something ... it's really untamed". I had mentioned to very slowly feed the throttle in corners and to be in the right gear.
I rode his Ninja during that test ride and I could be in 3rd coming out of a 20mph corner and feed gas and his bike would not stumble. You have to have a certain finesse to ride an SD properly.
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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby FasYankee » Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:32 pm

I haven't ridden a 1290 either but I can imagine. My worst (best) bike I ever owned was a 1999 CBR 900RR (fireblade for you EU guys). Thing was perfect. Turned, stopped, went like stink, wheelied out of corners on the regular without any drama. It was sooooo smooth.....but it had no soul.....no character.....Honda engineered the fun right out of it.......that bike was soooo boringly awesome that I only kept it for a few months. I took a 6 yr hiatus from street riding after that. Bought myself (actually my wife bought it for me for my B-day) an 06 R1......took it home from the dealer dropped the motor and had a full works race job done on......180 HP at the wheel.......that bike had character!

Still this SD is my favorite bike I've ever had so far........something really special is going to have to come along to take its place in the stable.......

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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby BrandonH » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:12 pm

This is exactly my point. All you 990 guys that say the 1290 sucks haven't even ridden it! Its mostly, "well my buddy rode it and said it sucks", or "Well if I had to guess, it probably sucks". Don't talk shit unless you have ridden it. I will say the 990 guys that have ridden it, for the most part, love it. And if you are worried about it being too "refined".... easy solution.... Turn off the ABS and MTC. You will shit yourself :mrgreen:
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Re: 990's rule ...1290's suck

Postby shadowman » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:42 pm

I rode the S1000R with all the options and all the nannies turned off for a good long ride as I had been considering an upgrade. I had the original 990 at the time.

The BM was faster (although interestingly not punchier off the throttle) had better brakes, was lower, much easier to ride fast, smoother (obviously) handled better and even sounded OK with its Arka on. I liked it a lot but on the road it really wasn't any more fun than the 990 I already had, it didn't look as striking as the SD and it would have cost me 8K to swap. I kept the 990, had they been the same price I might have swapped just for a change.

I'm broke at the moment and down to a single bike which has to work two up so it's not a live issue for me but when I'm looking again the 1290 would certainly be on the list. I'm hoping by then good, well modded ones will be under 8K here in the UK and at that price it's probably what I would buy.

1290's whishing to take up Stalkers gauntlet should study the various track videos he has posted from crashfest carefully before jumping in. Round Cadwell he would be faster than me on anything riding Clinks old Honda shitheap
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