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Advice on trailer loading

Postby RichUK » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:59 am

I have a study 3 bike trailer that has been used for dirt type bikes only so far.
Any advice on where to strap the 990 SD to hold her on?

Trailer channels are 13cms so the front will go in but the rear will sit above.
The trailer has bracket at the front to hold the front wheel straight, which helps as otherwise you risk losing strap tension if the handlebars twist.

Normally I would strap to the bars but that is with a lighter bike that has cross braced handlebars.
So my plan is to use a strap loop around the forks, above the lower triple clamp, and then use a second set of straps on the rear foot peg hangers - sound good?
Could use the rear subframe mount point instead of the foot peg hangers but TBH these are just secondaries, the front straps will be doing most of the holding.

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Re: Advice on trailer loading

Postby PBRnr » Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:54 pm

How deep are the channels? I once tried to load the SD on a borrowed dirt bike trailer and the front tyre hopped off the shallow track over a bump...nearly dumped the bike on the highway...
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Re: Advice on trailer loading

Postby PBRnr » Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:55 pm

The front wheel chock on my kendon seems a critical part of the stability
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Re: Advice on trailer loading

Postby RichUK » Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:40 pm

The channels are 5cm tall.
If you think it's a possibility that the front wheel could jump out (with the front strapped down from the lower yoke) then I could put a strap around the channel to lock the wheel in there.

In fact thinking about it, it might be an idea to do that to rear wheel anyway as it won't be in the channel, just resting on it. If it were to bounce out it would be... interesting... :(

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Re: Advice on trailer loading

Postby PBRnr » Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:41 pm

THat sounds wise. Compressing the forks a bit but not bottomed out (I’ve heard can blow the internals) should help. I’ve had the back tyre hop a bit even with ties on the subframe (granted they’re not pulling straight down, more forward) and leave the bike slightly askew by the end of the trip...
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Re: Advice on trailer loading

Postby Sarasota_Steve » Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:27 pm

I just trailered the bike yesterday to get the speedo reprogrammed.

I have a Handlebar Strap from CycleCynch (http://www.cyclecynch.com

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I was going to install soft straps and straps over the lower triple clamps but there is no clearance between the side headlight covers and the forks so the straps do not fit.

For the rear (and to avoid the back wheel from hopping) I use Shockstraps http://www.shockstrap.com/motorcycles.

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I tied to the intersection between the frame and the subframe with a soft strap as my SDR does not have passenger footpegs.

From their website:

ShockStraps are a patented, unique urethane based shock absorbing tie down made to keep tension on the strap and your load secure.
When road vibrations cause loads to shift and settle, other tie downs can loosen and become unsafe.
Under these conditions, ShockStrap stretches and contracts acting like a shock absorber keeping your load secure.
Even in extremely rough road conditions you won’t have to pull over to make sure that your tie downs are secure.
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Re: Advice on trailer loading

Postby RichUK » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:48 am

Those ShockStraps look good.
I was given a tip years ago for something that performs a similar task.
Bungee straps - The idea is once the bike is strapped you wrap a bungee around corresponding strap pairs, or to the trailer perpendicular to each strap. The bungees aren't about holding a constant strapping force though, they are just to make sure that if the bike bounces the straps can't become loose and unhook themselves as the bungee will take up any slack.

So.. I think I'm now sorted for holding my SD on the trailer.
Just need to figure how to hold my mates VFR800 on there too, but he's far less precious about that bike so I'm sure it'll get secured safely.

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Re: Advice on trailer loading

Postby Stratkat » Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:08 pm

PBRnr wrote:THat sounds wise. Compressing the forks a bit but not bottomed out (I’ve heard can blow the internals) should help. I’ve had the back tyre hop a bit even with ties on the subframe (granted they’re not pulling straight down, more forward) and leave the bike slightly askew by the end of the trip...


thats a myth, cinch those straps down! ive spent a lifetime of transporting motorcycles, trucked my Ducati out to TX from MA, never blew a fork seal...
seals leak from a foreign particle, scratched stanchion, or because they are old/dried out.

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Re: Advice on trailer loading

Postby Stratkat » Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:12 pm

RichUK wrote:Those ShockStraps look good.
I was given a tip years ago for something that performs a similar task.
Bungee straps - The idea is once the bike is strapped you wrap a bungee around corresponding strap pairs, or to the trailer perpendicular to each strap. The bungees aren't about holding a constant strapping force though, they are just to make sure that if the bike bounces the straps can't become loose and unhook themselves as the bungee will take up any slack.

So.. I think I'm now sorted for holding my SD on the trailer.
Just need to figure how to hold my mates VFR800 on there too, but he's far less precious about that bike so I'm sure it'll get secured safely.


cinch them down, you dont want to encourage bounce. the back end can move around, its the front you want secure. it takes a lot to have the back end move, in my experience when it does its just a few inches off center.

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Re: Advice on trailer loading

Postby joebar » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:44 pm

Get the original. Canyon Dancer harness.
http://www.canyondancer.com/

I have used mine on all my road bikes without any issues.

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Re: Advice on trailer loading

Postby PBRnr » Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:26 am

Stratkat wrote:
PBRnr wrote:THat sounds wise. Compressing the forks a bit but not bottomed out (I’ve heard can blow the internals) should help. I’ve had the back tyre hop a bit even with ties on the subframe (granted they’re not pulling straight down, more forward) and leave the bike slightly askew by the end of the trip...


thats a myth, cinch those straps down! ive spent a lifetime of transporting motorcycles, trucked my Ducati out to TX from MA, never blew a fork seal...
seals leak from a foreign particle, scratched stanchion, or because they are old/dried out.


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