Restricting the power 2005 990 for import to France

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Restricting the power 2005 990 for import to France

Postby Jody » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:33 pm

I want to get my bike registered in France, to do this I need to confirm it's no more than 106hp.

How would I go about restricting it? Can it be done with the ECU ?

I'm guessing I'd need a printout from a dyno to show sub 106hp too?
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Re: Restricting the power 2005 990 for import to France

Postby gotswap » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:50 pm

You are not allowed more than 106HP?
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Re: Restricting the power 2005 990 for import to France

Postby nampus » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:57 am

Can't you just load a tuneEcu map with the rev limit set at 7k, do a Dyno run, and then switch back to your current map?

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Re: Restricting the power 2005 990 for import to France

Postby No. 47 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:41 am

What was the KTM official spec for the equivalent of yours sold in France?
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Re: Restricting the power 2005 990 for import to France

Postby SD05 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:01 pm

I hope my response is wrong.

If I am right, I am sorry to say you have a problem.

Part of getting your bike registered in France is you providing the Certificate of Conformity (CoC). The KTM issued CoC states your BHP is 118. OK you say lets get the bike restricted. The French are not too happy accepting later added parts even if KTM provided and documented and showing BHP restricted.

Next. The French have now removed the BHP limit, but only on Euro 3 bikes, yours is Euro 2. Plus the removal of the French BHP restriction is only applicable to bikes with ABS brakes.

Euro 2 kills your plans as does lack of ABS.

If someone can provide a more pleasing answer other than get a Euro 3 bike with ABS, I too would love to hear it

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Re: Restricting the power 2005 990 for import to France

Postby bic_bicknell » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:09 pm

Sorry to read this post.It sounds like there may be nom answer to this.

But on a lighter note - in ten years of coming to this forum this is genuinely the first time I've ever read a request for information about how to make LESS power and not more performance! ;)
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Re: Restricting the power 2005 990 for import to France

Postby Jody » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:30 pm

gotswap wrote:You are not allowed more than 106HP?


Ohh you are allowed more than 106hp, I just thought I completely invent a rule, JUST to make life difficult for myself :roll: :roll:


No. 47 wrote:What was the KTM official spec for the equivalent of yours sold in France?


I don't know for sure, but I do know they are available.

A friend bought a brand new Fr spec gsxr1000 (few years ago) 106hp restricted.
At first service "please mr mechanic, take the restricter off" " I can't do that son, but when you get home if you cut the grey wire with the black tape on it......"
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Re: Restricting the power 2005 990 for import to France

Postby No. 47 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:11 pm

Surely there's no issue if you can demonstrate that yours is the same spec as those of the same year of manufacture sold by KTM in France at the same time? And if they're a different spec, most likely difference is just the map.
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Re: Restricting the power 2005 990 for import to France

Postby SD05 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:52 am

No 47,

If it only it were that simple.

French bureaucracy and administration is a national passion and rules are rules in matters of this type. The French will not waver to what you feel is British common sense. If you move to France you have to embrace the multiple layers of bureaucracy.

Jody’s problem is that the UK 2005 990 is different to the French 2005, by at least 12 bhp. The entrance ticket to getting the UK bike registered in France is, as noted above, the (EU) Certificate of Conformity (CoC). The UK KTM issued 2005 Superduke CoC clearly states on the rear of the Certificate that Jody’s bike is 118 bhp.

The French will not entertain Jody’s first step in registering his bike without first seeing the CoC. On seeing the CoC, they will show Jody the exit door. They will not debate, they will not accept any bhp reduction, even if demonstrated by a dyno graph. The CoC is the everything.

As I said before, I would love to be wrong, Jody would love me to be wrong, however this is not a situation that can be fixed or hood winked.

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Re: Restricting the power 2005 990 for import to France

Postby RichUK » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:15 pm

How about faking the CoC?

A scanner, editing package..... and voila 106hp. :mrgreen:

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Re: Restricting the power 2005 990 for import to France

Postby twinrider32 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:45 pm

Hello there



There is no106 BHP limit any more as stated earlier - it was lifted to unrestricted last year or maybe the year before - but if all that is correct about abs and euro 2 etc then there is still hope - I had no problem registering my 2008 SDR here back in 2009 - simply took it to KTM dealer with all bumph in pack and they restricted it to 106 by mapping ..... ,in fact it was such a farce the dealer couldnt remap it cos his computer was playing up,so knowing I would remap it when I got home he just gave me the invoice to say it had been done, and then you can register it, for better or worse its all done online now as well - it takes fecking months but I have just got my log back for something else...........; eventually as is the way down here :)


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