Motorbike investment - What would you buy?

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Motorbike investment - What would you buy?

Postby soarsore » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:35 am

I have a good friend who wants to buy a new Indian as an Investment. He does not ride. He does this kinda spontaneous stuff, and has the coin to do it.
If he wants to buy a chrome baby to look at it that is fine, but to justify it as an "investment" does not fly with me. Got me thinking, if you had $20K US to buy an investment ordainment, what would you get? I would like to show him that there are real investments out there.
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Postby 41KS » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:14 am

BMW HP2 Sport, if new still available for 20K.
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Postby CEREC1 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:45 am

Japenese 2 Strokes. Low mileage,original and mint. Values are soaring in the UK. :idea:
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Postby charger » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:01 am

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Postby jmann » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:36 am

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Postby Willh » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:42 am

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Postby bic_bicknell » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:42 am

In the UK one of the genres of bikes that is rapidly accruing value and interest is for the Ducati Sports Classic range.

They are still fairly available but limited numbers so rather exclusive, big in the UK and the States.

There are a few different versions from limited edition Cafe racer version through to the more basic road bikes, (GT version), so you can more or less decide how much you want to spend up front. Probably about £6,000 entry level up to £20K+ for a special with some nice tasteful mods and upgrades.

Buy NOW to avoid disappointment! :lol: I would if I could afford it.

But this bike was meant to be RIDDEN. Not sit in some hallway or in a vacuum polythene bag in the back of a warehouse so I'm a bit loath to recommend it.
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Postby DribbleDuke » Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:45 pm

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Postby SPEIRMOOR » Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:54 pm

These new Indians wont be worth anything for a hundred years. Vincents and Broughs have shot way above the $20K at this stage. Velocette Thruxtons will be just around the mark and are bound to increase. HD Sturgis or Grey Ghost Fatboy are a couple that will increase but slower. The Ducati Sport classic as someone said earlier are hot right but an unmolested Paul Smart version or the earlier MH900 are sound investments.

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Postby blb » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:05 pm

Whats $20k? £13k?

In that case I would buy an RC30 no question, already a classic and won't lose a penny. Having said that I would buy my old Aprilia RS250 back in a heartbeat, never thought they would go up in value..
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Postby MADDOG53 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:37 pm

If he went looking around in this economy he could probly find a "real" 48 Indian chief for 20-30 K,,,,,,they are out there,and spare's are still available to keep it moving,,,and if your just looking at it, go for a "wall hanger",,,my friend Howard bought this for three grand 20 years ago,and being the "only" 1913 two valve racer around,(4 factory bike's that year),,it's value has gone way ,way up,,,,,,a good investment in history I'de say,,,,

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Or how about this,,,,there'a a few on this site worth a look,,,,,,
http://www.michaelsmotorcycles.com/1975Ducati713.html

If it were me I'de def go for an early Guzzi 750 sport or 850 LeMans I,,,,back in the day my LeMans went out the door for $3600 and a pristeen example sells today 10-15 all day long,,,,

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Re: Motorbike investment - What would you buy?

Postby soarsore » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:11 pm

Terrific suggestions guys! Many I have not even thought about. Keep the ideas coming, the more options I have the better chance I have to guide him into a real investment.
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Re: Motorbike investment - What would you buy?

Postby SDNerd » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:42 pm

Unless you got a great deal on say, an RC30, there is no bike I know of for $20K USD that I could call an "investment".

Maybe the odd special edition MV or Ducati will retain their values, but I wouldn't anticipate any real appreciation on these for many years to come. I don't believe that the current demand for the Duc "Sport Classics" will last; I see their prices over here softening a bit already from 6 to 18 mos ago. If one gets a something more like a 998R, 998 FE, 748RS, etc. those will go somewhere long term. I do wonder if Treblanche's folly (999R/749Rs in particular) - given their current low values, might not go somewhere long term.

Supposedly having "... the coin to do it ..." - he should be prepared to part with more like $30K+ for anything that is really investment grade. The new Indian is unlikely to appreciate anytime in his lifetime (in then current value - whenever then is ...).

Old race stuff like Rickman Nortons, particularly those with a race pedigree are likely to retain value, if not appreciate.

Good luck in the hunt!

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Re: Motorbike investment - What would you buy?

Postby Jody » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:55 pm

Not a ducati, they need £500 service every 2 years so that's any increase in value gone up before you start

Jap 2 strokes, minters out there if you know where to look, already fetching more that they were new

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Postby SDNerd » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:08 pm

Jody wrote:Not a ducati, they need £500 service every 2 years so that's any increase in value gone up before you start


LOL - only £500 over there? That would be cheap here!

Regardless, if its not being ridden, the only thing to watch for other than oxidation is rotting rubber, be that a Duc's belts, tyres, hoses, etc.

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Postby CEREC1 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:07 pm

Well for one thing I wouldn't put all the money in one bike. A collection, space permitting would cover any drop in the value on any one bike.
Check out eBay and see what gets loads of bids on classics. Single winning bids don't give a clue as to demand and value. Loads of bids from different bidders is a measure of what might be a good bike to hang onto :idea:
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Postby 41KS » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:29 pm

DribbleDuke wrote:Samsung stock and a picture of a Vincent.

Not to say your posts aren't inspiring, but first time I have a 100% clue what you are talking about ;)
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Postby DribbleDuke » Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:02 am

41KS wrote:
DribbleDuke wrote:Samsung stock and a picture of a Vincent.

Not to say your posts aren't inspiring, but first time I have a 100% clue what you are talking about ;)

Sounds like you need a checkup from the neckup
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Re: Motorbike investment - What would you buy?

Postby MADDOG53 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:56 am

speedfiend41 wrote:Yamaha RZ(RD)500 (regularly going for $12,000 plus), Suzuki RG500, Honda NSR400 (one of these went for $12,000 here!), RD250/350LC or any good condition air cooled RD, Kawasaki Z1's, Honda RC30's, 1985 Suzuki GSXR750, pretty much any bevel drive Ducati, 98 red and white R1, the original Fireblade, and the first of the Ducati 916's.

I'd have any of them. Should never have sold my RD250LC or my 98 R1!


Here's an RZ 500 in the states,,,,,price drop :!:

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Postby Tlow98 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:08 am

lots of great posts. Sure do love me some two-strokes!

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Postby shadowman » Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:02 pm

There are plenty of things that make genuine investments, motorcycles are for sure not one of those things!

If forced to pick what's cheap now but might be worth more within a decade I would pick....

Honda - VTR SP1 / 2 - RC45

Suzuki - Genuine stealth K5 fixer 1000. I had one and wish that I still did.

Yam - Mint completely standard R1 RD350LC.

Kwak - The first of the ZX10's as it was a wild one. Any of the thre cylinder KH range if you can find one now.

Exotic- Jota, 900SS, Dominator, trident.

But in fact my most recent purchases are the SD which will lose me a few grand, an EXC 300 which assuming I don't total it may break even and a ZZR1400 which will cost a fortune to run and lose money when sold.

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Re: Motorbike investment - What would you buy?

Postby soarsore » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:10 am

Thanks a ton guys! Definitely a great direction if he indeed wants to spend his money for two wheels. Either way I will update if and when anything happens.
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Postby MADDOG53 » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:55 pm

How about a big ,fast Honda,,,classic,,, :!:
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Postby 41KS » Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:01 pm

MADDOG53 wrote:How about a big ,fast Honda,,,classic,,, :!:
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad ... &ad_cid=12

From this example it is clear there is not much revenue can be earned buying a bike as investment :twisted: Just kidding ;)
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Postby MADDOG53 » Sat Aug 17, 2013 2:44 pm

41KS wrote:
MADDOG53 wrote:How about a big ,fast Honda,,,classic,,, :!:
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad ... &ad_cid=12

From this example it is clear there is not much revenue can be earned buying a bike as investment :twisted: Just kidding ;)

If it were me I'de talk him down to 5 and buy a Two Brother's exhaust for it,,,,the thing's sound incredable at full chat,,,,,,all those whirling gears and such,,,,I think 5K is where the price would alway's be for a "minter",,,how about this,,,for 5 :?:
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