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Postby fakujak72 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:28 pm

Just back from the dealers after First service and Akro system fitment.

What can I say: lots of dosh spent for a loud bark!!!
(:twisted: Mucho louder than the SDs twin setup.)
But what a bark! 6000 revs. I am doing 90. Crack the throttle wider and Baaaaark of it goes easily past the Tonten. And that wee deflector over the cowel takes much of the windblast away. (I was riding on the M-way in the P****ng rain BTW.)

Fueling must be fine as I don't get as much of the popping and banging I used to get on the overrun from my SD. (Shame.) However £5.57 for 73 miles. :lol: Got to be considered if you don't/can't use all the power of a Superbike

Having had a few previous Dukes and thinking that I required lots more power to compete on the occasions I had to use the M-ways.
Have now found that the Duke III is the answer to all my Commuting/Touring/Fun needs..

Think there is a list somewhere on this Forum of previous bikes owned.
Mines is fairly long. The Duke III is deffo. the best/easiest all rounder I have ridden.
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Postby ShadeTheChangingMan » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:34 pm

so, was that petrol cost based on caning it or motorway poodling?

I've got loan of a Duke III all day tomorrow, I'm well lookin forward to it! If the petrol costs are as low as they seem from your post then it could answer some of my problems too!!!
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Postby fakujak72 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:01 pm

ShadeTheChangingMan wrote:so, was that petrol cost based on caning it or motorway poodling?

I've got loan of a Duke III all day tomorrow, I'm well lookin forward to it! If the petrol costs are as low as they seem from your post then it could answer some of my problems too!!!


Problems? poodling? :lol: My dealer is over 60 miles away. And I ain't going the pretty route in the p****ng rain

My Duke III was driven at between 85-90mph with the occasional 110 In the P****ng rain for 50odd miles and driven inbetween through a City(Edinburgh) for 15 miles.

When I picked it up from dealer after service and Akro fitment. I thought it would be wise to fill up for the journey home. £5.57 was all it took :lol:

Now. I haven't filled it after Akro fitment :wink:

Seriously an SD. could never ever match that. Nor any of the 950/990s
And feel so easy doing so.
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Postby weeksy » Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:47 am

110mph ? nah.. i couldn't get over 106 on the Duke III.
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Postby Mr_Trecolareco » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:58 am

Yes the Duke3 is a great little bike. Great engine, no vibes excellente handling and light.

I wouldn't mind having one next to my SD, but not instead my SD :wink:

But for those who commute long distances and inside city traffic ( I only do 15km's each way and little traffic) it may be easier to go around with a duke3.

With less expensive services, better millage it's a more reasonnable bike to have for daily use... :twisted:

But for now I don't want reason, I did that with the VFR and got bored after 20.000km's ehehe
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Postby ShadeTheChangingMan » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:04 am

Well, I've just returned from the dealers with the Duke III, its a fun bike but lacks the punch I thought it would have in lower gears. Thats not to say its slow....it just doesnt feel fast. I've been running it aroud the local lanes and it steers SO fast and light....I'm used to a bit more weight turning in and this has dropped into some corners so fast I thought i was gonna HIT the bushes on the apex! Once i got used ot it, it got more fun and felt faster, but in any gear above 3rd it's a bit of a drag. Defintely a town blaster or lane hack! Avoid motorways and long trips....the seat height is nice, but my knees are a bit tired right now. It looks great and sounds nice but I'd never run on with standard cans, this thing needs to breathe and bark!!

I'm looking forward to going out on it again after lunch and then returning it. I suspect my SD is gonna feel like a rocket after this thing though. Next time, it's GOT to be a 990SM!! Best of both worlds, surely?

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Postby weeksy » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:12 am

ShadeTheChangingMan wrote:. Next time, it's GOT to be a 990SM!! Best of both worlds, surely?
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So close mate... just 1 digit wrong.
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Postby ShadeTheChangingMan » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:18 am

I thought the 950 was out of production now? They had a 990SM there for a new customer....so I couldnt change my mind.
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Postby weeksy » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:23 am

ShadeTheChangingMan wrote:I thought the 950 was out of production now? They had a 990SM there for a new customer....so I couldnt change my mind.


It is... but you can still buy 0 mile ones.

950SM/R is carb'd.... doesn't have the grunt out the box of the 990SM... but doesn't have the 'quick action' throttle :)
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Postby fakujak72 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:22 pm

OK!

Went out for another run today. Took in some more empty flowing roads.
Totally agree that the Duke doesn't have the smooth torque or power of the SD.
So wasn't as much fun.

Oh! and experienced 2 stalls with clutch in.
Ignition map will be at setting 2 (Much more snatchy. Which I like actually 8) ).

Oh dear. Seems like the old SD. syndrome. Where first customer feedback is being used for development.

And Weeksy 110mph No probs. You want to lose some excess baggage mate. :P
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Postby weeksy » Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:09 pm

fakujak72 wrote:And Weeksy 110mph No probs. You want to lose some excess baggage mate. :P


NEver a truer word spoken :)
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Postby fakujak72 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:14 pm

Went along another route today. :lol:

Wouldn't ever dream of doing on my SD.(Too much carbon to shred) You know? One of those gravel strewn roads with the grass in the middle. The grass being nibbled by sheep that frequent this route. :lol: .

Having said that The Duke wasn't perfectly happy. Suspension is, way to hard. As stock.(Not even, best in City?).


Thinking about, going to meet the purchaser of my old SD. And follow him down his regular road. :evil:
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Postby collyer » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:23 pm

Hey, Fakujak - this thread would be MUCH better with some pictures of the thin white akra'd duke. I, too, am an ex Duke II believer on an SD. I am. however, waiting a few months to find a "bored" owner of a 690 Duke here in the US. I'm thinking about $6500 will put one in the shed next to the SD next spring.....
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Postby fakujak72 » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:36 pm

collyer wrote:Hey, Fakujak - this thread would be MUCH better with some pictures of the thin white akra'd duke. I, too, am an ex Duke II believer on an SD. I am. however, waiting a few months to find a "bored" owner of a 690 Duke here in the US. I'm thinking about $6500 will put one in the shed next to the SD next spring.....


Stuck a couple of pics on:

http://ktmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=292399&st=60
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Postby warh0rn » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:06 am

fakujak72 wrote:OK. Picked up My "Thin White Duke" today.

100 mile trip back home. Weather was good, roads were busy and it was a hoot.

Obviously, bike's still running in but I could feel it loosening nicely.

Tyres are scrubbed in.

Compared to the SD. Which has a larger/heavier feel to it. The duke is like a powered bicycle. And what power!
You do have to use the gearbox more often to keep it on the boil though. It rewards you with great acceloration and it tips on its ear quicker than a quick thing.
Seats a bit harder, so 100miles was about as far as I would go. (The SD was looking for petrol by then anyways) in one stint. With plenty fuel left

All in all and sad to say but I am glad, I've went back to the Duke :oops:
Akro system at 1st service :lol:


I am thinking of doing the same. How is the highway speed stability, wind protection, economy compared to the 990?
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Postby weeksy » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:44 am

Stability fine.

Wind isn't an issue any more than a Superduke.

Deffo more economical.


I won't comment much more than that, because you only asked these specific questions :)

However there's a nice 2 page spread in the UK 'Ride' magazine on it this month.
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Postby warh0rn » Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:09 pm

weeksy wrote:Stability fine.

Wind isn't an issue any more than a Superduke.

Deffo more economical.


I won't comment much more than that, because you only asked these specific questions :)

However there's a nice 2 page spread in the UK 'Ride' magazine on it this month.


its a shame there isnt any dukes nearby anymore. I sure would like to try one. Seeing how 6.5+ rpms and 85+ mph is unknowned to my superduke, I dont think I will miss the power but I cant be sure until I try one. One thing for sure is how unhappy I am with the <30mph performance on the superduke. I wish I could just retune it to be more practical but it wasnt made for that so I am in the market for something that is. Choices are: 690 Duke/SMC/SM, Versys, and oddly 1996+ Vmax.....cause my friends and relatives are all buying harleys and selling their sportbikes :(

At some point of my life I know I will end up on a Vmax but im trying to hold off on going "lightheavyweight" for as long as I can.

Anyone else have ideas or imputs on this matter?
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Postby jehadjoe » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:44 am

warh0rn, Check this... I like it.

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Postby warh0rn » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:09 am

(Cat crosses the road... 4 seconds later... you see the samething.)
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Postby jehadjoe » Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:19 pm

fakujak72, And all SD.Net folks...sorry with the clutter of pics on the kwak, I will contact Mister Warh0rn and ask him to remove the versys pic's, I figured the thread had played itself out by now but anyhow .... joe will try and clean up the mess. :oops: woopsy.. :?

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Postby warh0rn » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:54 am

collyer wrote:Hey, Fakujak - this thread would be MUCH better with some pictures of the thin white akra'd duke. I, too, am an ex Duke II believer on an SD. I am. however, waiting a few months to find a "bored" owner of a 690 Duke here in the US. I'm thinking about $6500 will put one in the shed next to the SD next spring.....


Hmm... maybe I should just do the same.. Keep my 990 and get a 690... should fullfill all my riding needs... well.. I think I will still need a Vmax... hm... Don't worry Joe I wont sell my Rhino.. the recall service they just did seemed to really help the snatch issue for some reason??
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Postby collyer » Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:30 am

When you say "snatch issue....?"



I think the SD & the 690 Duke would be the best combo ever. Commuter, Destroyer.
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Postby warh0rn » Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:50 am

collyer wrote:When you say "snatch issue....?"



I mean the itch I get between my legs.... :p


.... after it slams into my tank :x from the abrupt acceleration followed by the abrupt deceleration from both the engine and front brakes as I desperately try to stay on the bike and not loose any more cool points :shock:
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Postby Bodge » Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:05 pm

collyer wrote:I think the SD & the 690 Duke would be the best combo ever. Commuter, Destroyer.


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Postby warh0rn » Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:13 pm

Bodge wrote:
collyer wrote:I think the SD & the 690 Duke would be the best combo ever. Commuter, Destroyer.


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Bastard... I am filled with envy :evil:

How do you rate them? Tell us your opinion of this perfect combo :shock:
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