Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

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Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby bic_bicknell » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:21 pm

Started to fit the Monoblocks today.

Had to fit the calipers to the forks to find out exactly how I need to adjust the brake line hoses/banjos to fit. Looks like I need to keep the hoses the exact same length but change to a straight banjo fitting turned through ninety degrees. I've taken off the whole front brake line assembly and will see about getting a specialist company to make the alteration. Anyone know of somewhere in London who could do this? I really want to go to someone who will do this well, not just an auto brake place.

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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby SDMARK » Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:41 pm

you can buy the kits to do it your self from deamon tweeks banjos washers all you need to do the job, probs be alot cheaper too.
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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby bic_bicknell » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:27 pm

So now I have three choices,

A) New set of custom hoses, from some one like Hell or Goodridge - race style with two separate hoses from the master cylinder to each caliper - the most expensive choice.

B) Local bike place will fit me a new set of banjos onto my existing braided hoses - but then I can't put back my old calipers in the future - the cheapest choice.

C) Get the straight banjos myself from Goodridge and fit them myself, but I need the crimping kit for putting together braided hoses - not too cheap but then I have it for ever.
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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby Al3x » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:52 pm

I have a pair of monoblocks on my SDR, I got my hoses from earls, they have an online custom line builder.

This was what ordered:

1 x Custom Braided Brake Hose (Stainless End Fittings) (CUSTOM) = £23.11
First End Fitting (SS) Straight Banjo 10mm - 3/8" (501793)
Hose Length 850mm
Second End Fitting (SS) 20 Deg Banjo 10mm - 3/8" (502293)
Hose Colour Black
1 x Custom Braided Brake Hose (Stainless End Fittings) (CUSTOM) = £23.11
First End Fitting (SS) Straight Banjo 10mm - 3/8" (501793)
Hose Length 900mm
Second End Fitting (SS) 20 Deg Banjo 10mm - 3/8" (502293)
Hose Colour Black

Total: £49.52

They fitted up fine and I didn't have to alter any of the banjos to get the alignment right.

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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby rallsy » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:03 pm

You could try thinkautomotive near twickenham

I got all my car turbo/coolant/brake and earl fittings custom made there and they are good price

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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby loony888 » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:38 am

i'm not sure about your laws but over here the brake lines must have swaged fittings, screw together fittings aren't allowed on the road, and they won't pass basic scrutineering at a track day either.
i've just had a full set made in stainless with stainless black fittings and orange hose, had to supply my original lines as they had no pattern :roll:

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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby Grendel » Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:55 pm

Grendel picked up a set of calipers from e-bay. unfortunately he thinks they were miss stated. They said they came from the 848, but they do not look like the picture. The brake pads look similar, but the BREMBO logo is much smaller. He thinks they came from a monster. Any way to confirm this?
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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby bic_bicknell » Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:08 pm

Hi Grendel,

If the calipers are genuine Brembo monoblocks then they will be machined as one component. There is no split line joined together with two large allen bolts as on the other Brembo calipers - if they have a join then they are not Monoblocks and might be lower spec models from a Monster. The standard Superduke radial calipers are made from two pieces and are really great brakes, nothing wrong with them - but the monoblocks will theoretically work better because there is less flex in them when being operated.

Hope you did not pay too much for them if they are not Monoblocks.
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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby bic_bicknell » Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:03 pm

Thanks for the link Al3x! :lol:

All credit to Earls......really recommend them for custom brake lines, maybe not as well known as Hell or Goodridge but far better personal service. I rang them Tuesday morning, ordered all the parts you mentioned, as well as some bits to clamp dual hoses together, and they arrived this morning, (two day later!). The guy was really helpful and knew his stuff with answers to all my questions. They look fantastic quality and nice with the black hosing cover. Think I will get the rear made up by them as well they look so good. Also I like companies based at Silverstone - I used to ride Ducati and always used Baines racing who were there as well. I think that the close links with racing makes these companies really stand out.
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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby Al3x » Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:23 pm

bic_bicknell wrote:Thanks for the link Al3x! :lol:

All credit to Earls......really recommend them for custom brake lines, maybe not as well known as Hell or Goodridge but far better personal service. I rang them Tuesday morning, ordered all the parts you mentioned, as well as some bits to clamp dual hoses together, and they arrived this morning, (two day later!). The guy was really helpful and knew his stuff with answers to all my questions. They look fantastic quality and nice with the black hosing cover. Think I will get the rear made up by them as well they look so good. Also I like companies based at Silverstone - I used to ride Ducati and always used Baines racing who were there as well. I think that the close links with racing makes these companies really stand out.


Your welcome mate, I spent ages checking the hose length required and banjo angles I needed. I was really pleased with Earls too, very quick turnaround on them. The routing of the hoses was a bit of a bodge though. I may have another attempt at routing/cable tying them through the headlight mask and making things a bit neater.

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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby browser » Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:51 pm

loony888 wrote:i'm not sure about your laws but over here the brake lines must have swaged fittings, screw together fittings aren't allowed on the road, and they won't pass basic scrutineering at a track day either.
i've just had a full set made in stainless with stainless black fittings and orange hose, had to supply my original lines as they had no pattern :roll:

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I never knew that, did it just change this year then? mine are screw type on my race bike and have been passed every time o have raceed in the past. Although its only club level.
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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby bic_bicknell » Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:52 pm

Got the new Earls brake lines on today and the Monoblocks working. :lol:
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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby prikkie » Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:23 pm

And ?
Satisfied?

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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby bic_bicknell » Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:43 pm

Haven't even had time to go out for a test ride yet.

Got twin babies due any day and I'm spending all my time at the house with Amy in case she goes into labour.

I'll post up what I think of the new brakes when I get a chance. They look good though!! :lol:
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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby loony888 » Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:38 am

browser wrote:
loony888 wrote:i'm not sure about your laws but over here the brake lines must have swaged fittings, screw together fittings aren't allowed on the road, and they won't pass basic scrutineering at a track day either.
i've just had a full set made in stainless with stainless black fittings and orange hose, had to supply my original lines as they had no pattern :roll:

paul.



I never knew that, did it just change this year then? mine are screw type on my race bike and have been passed every time o have raceed in the past. Although its only club level.



The law has been relaxed as of a few years ago, at least here in QLD, it used to be no replacement lines at all, now you can use certain aftermarket stuff with the right approval tags. I guess track days and race scrutineering depends on how fussy the scrutineer is, though my mate got knocked back on his 851 for fancy russell lines, but it was a road registered bike on a track day, not a race bike.

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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby boney95 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:39 am

I just bought a pair of Monoblocks for my SD. The Monoblocks came off of a SMR. The question is, should I see if the seller will also send me the brake lines also? I then wouldn't have to get different fittings to match up to the new calipers. The SMR lines should run and fit perfectly on my SD right??

And if not, anybody know of a place in the U.S that can help me out with lines and fittings?
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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby Crotchrockety » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:07 pm

boney95 wrote:I just bought a pair of Monoblocks for my SD. The Monoblocks came off of a SMR. The question is, should I see if the seller will also send me the brake lines also? I then wouldn't have to get different fittings to match up to the new calipers. The SMR lines should run and fit perfectly on my SD right??

And if not, anybody know of a place in the U.S that can help me out with lines and fittings?


I have no idea about your first question. As for who can set you up with custom brake lines, that would be Spiegler USA. http://www.spieglerusa.com/brakes/custo ... lines.html
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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby boney95 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:32 pm

Spiegler, right. Thanks Crotch!
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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby boney95 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:31 pm

The lines for the SMR cost $213, while the SD is $109, why do the stock SMR lines go for twice as much?

Anybody, anybody, will SMR stock OEM brake lines work on a SD with Monoblocks? I'm thinking the SMR lines might be a bit long, while also I have lsl flat drag bars on my SD.
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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby boney95 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:07 pm

Disregard, I just ordered a kit from Spiegler. Thanks for the measurements Al3x.
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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby Lowrance » Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:22 am

Just saw this post....you did the right thing. SMR lines would have been too long.

For anyone else wanting some lines HEL USA have a great price on quality lines...any color combo you want.

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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby DucatiTerminator » Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:27 am

Or for anyone stateside who is looking for the same in kevlar or carbon, I know of a good hookup for Fren Tubo. ;)

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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby Al3x » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:11 am

boney95 wrote:Disregard, I just ordered a kit from Spiegler. Thanks for the measurements Al3x.


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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby boney95 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:38 am

Is it bad that I'm laying on my couch with a M4 in hand, on my chest, as I fall in love with it?
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Re: Fitting Brembo Monoblocks to SD

Postby Don » Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:47 am

Nice job!

will this work on a '05 SD? If so where would I source a pair of mono blocks and lines mate?

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