Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

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Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby FFlash » Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:14 pm

OK, I give. I've looked in the manual and searched on this site but can't find out where to tap into a switched 12v source for GPS and radar detector on my 1290. I read a post about labeled switched and always on sources in the headlight housing but I found nothing in my 1290's headlight housing.

Anyone have a clue?

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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby DMacL » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:16 am

Under the rear seat there's 4 wires with crimped ends. I think one pair is constant and one switched live.

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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby FFlash » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:33 pm

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DMacL wrote:Under the rear seat there's 4 wires with crimped ends. I think one pair is constant and one switched live.


DMac, I can't find anything on my US model. Any chance you posting a photo?

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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby 111 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:30 pm

I too am interested on where switched power is on a US model. The blocked off wire bundle under the seat is clearly marked as a diagnostic port on mine. There is a labeled grip heater connection inside the headlight shell. There is also a unlabeled two wire connection under the buddy seat. On a 1190 that is for a heated seat.

KTM offers a gps mount you would think there is a provision somewhere for power?
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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby FFlash » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:03 am

111 wrote:..There is also a unlabeled two wire connection under the buddy seat. On a 1190 that is for a heated seat.
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FWIW I checked that connector with a meter and didn't find any power.

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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby OzBeast » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:42 am

In the workshop manual wiring diagram there are two accessory power sources.

Switched power
Yellow/red wire (positive)
Brown (earth)

Non switched
Black/Red wire (positive)
Brown (earth) (Non switched)

Double check that with a DMM or an accessory and your ignition.

With high power draw items make sure you use a relay.
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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby jmann » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:11 pm

Comrades: They are definitely under the seat but hidden underneath one of the large harnesses. Have a good poke around and you'll find them. They are even labelled to make it easy but here you go, one useless photo (all it really does is prove they are there):

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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby jmann » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:49 pm

FFlash wrote:OK, I give. I've looked in the manual and searched on this site but can't find out where to tap into a switched 12v source for GPS and radar detector on my 1290. I read a post about labeled switched and always on sources in the headlight housing but I found nothing in my 1290's headlight housing.

Anyone have a clue?


Comrade: Kevxtx wrote a fair bit on this for wiring in his heated gloves from memory (use the SEARCH buttone). I remember that he ended up running cable up to the headlight. He might have also put in something like a Fuzeblocks which isn't a bad idea as some accessories might give you trouble if connected on the canbus.

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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby FFlash » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:22 pm

Thanks for the photo jmann!

Those f'ers were buried deep. I'd never had the balls to grab them with a tool and blindly pull till they came out without seeing your photo!

ACC1 is always on power.
ACC2 is switched but only has power when the engine is running!

Now all I have to do is to figure out what type of connectors those are and run wires up to the headlight.

Thanks again!

Here's a link to a thread where kevxtx has posted a series of photos showing how to take the tank off. Those photos start near the bottom of this page: http://www.ktmsmt.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=6511
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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby 111 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:06 pm

Thank you guy's. I will start digging tonight for the leads.

Adding my trailtech LED lights. I'll post some pics once they are working. I like the oncoming traffic to see as much of me as possible. Also my previous Duke had a really weak headlight and needed the extra help.

Any idea what the two prong connector is under the buddy seat? My dealer says that it won't be active till they tell the bike it has heated grips than maybe it will powerup as a heated seat lead?
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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby kevxtx » Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:11 pm

Yip them are those wires you need & yes I did run a loom to the front for my GPS. All the info how to can be found here: http://www.ktmsmt.com/viewtopic.php?f=2 ... 875#p34875

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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby FFlash » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:54 am

kevxtx wrote:...& yes I did run a loom to the front for my GPS...


Thanks for that Kevxtx!

BTW, all of you who, like me, are not pro mechanics and had no idea of what a 'loom' is, it's a hose like thing that you run your wires in. Protects them and makes the installation look good. You are probably going to want to wait to make the install till you get one!

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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby ebags » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:39 am

Outlet for the heated grips is behind the headlight and its labeled if anyone's looking for that.

ACC1 is permanent active ACC2 is cotrolled by the ignition.
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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby OzBeast » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:10 am

111 wrote:Any idea what the two prong connector is under the buddy seat? My dealer says that it won't be active till they tell the bike it has heated grips than maybe it will powerup as a heated seat lead?


Isn't that connector for the magic dongle?

Heated grip connectors are under headlight mask.
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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby 111 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:35 pm

OK, I give, What's a magic dongle?
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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby DMacL » Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:56 am

The thing what remembers MTC and ABS on/off settings for you, instead of switching them back on when you turn the bike off, is known as the dongle.

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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby scotman623 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:27 pm

Going to use this info to hook up my GPS..Thanks! Scott

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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby cessnatpa » Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:24 pm

ACC1 has a 10A fuse and the print shows ACC2 is fed from the central electronic control unit. Does anyone know the capacity of ACC2?
I currently have my GPS on the switched power ACC2 and looking to power 2 LED lights that draw 1.6A. I know I can use a relay but would like to find out what ACC2 can handle.

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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby bauer » Wed May 20, 2015 6:40 pm

So how does it looks like when installed the 12v source, just a wire hanging around? Because there isn't room for the usual 12v socket, right?

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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby sgerona » Thu May 21, 2015 8:23 am

Hi there, like i Show in other treat, my solution is to put a USB plug in the fake right reservoir.

here you can see the pics:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sgerona/s ... 0710067663


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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby bauer » Thu May 21, 2015 9:24 am

Hi Sergi, glad to see you around! We have to go for a ride one of these days :mrgreen:

I saw your pictures before, when I was wondering where to get the power from, but didn't realise the socket in the reservoir. Did Ramón from Italo installed it? So when you're riding you actually have a wire from the device to this socket? Or do you hide it under the tank?

Salut i gassss!

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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby catalonia » Thu May 21, 2015 9:40 am

Hi everybody! interesting question bauer, I'll be waiting for the answer so I'm interested too about this solution and if was this done by Ramón, and I add the next one :

Do you touch the connector with your legs when riding on?

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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby sgerona » Thu May 21, 2015 9:42 am

Hi!!!! long time....
some bird said me we will be 4 with the same horses!!!

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next sunday we will be at alcarras!!! (Gerona Brothers running again)

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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby bauer » Thu May 21, 2015 11:07 am

Woooow!! Bring it on!! Gerona brothers in action again!! :mrgreen: I'd be more than glad to join you all, but Sunday's my family day. I'm trying to get my bike fixed for riding on Saturday in Castellolí or Alcarràs, we'll see..

SO, you ride with the AC cable to the wind, right :?:

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Re: Switched 12V on 1290 for accessories

Postby driftkr6l » Fri May 22, 2015 3:59 am

I installed this 12v and 5v usb plug directly to the 12v at the main relay. It looks like it was suppose to be there from the factory.

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