SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

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SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

Postby slowbutsure » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:22 am

Sorry Guys. I read lots of stuff to do the oil change for the non-SDR and gotten lots of info of how to do it. I have the SDR. The drainage bolt under motor (19mm) is not loosening with the standard open wrench. I"m trying to be careful not to strip the bolt head. I can't fit a socket up there because of the exhaust headers. Before I mess it up some more, what tool do you guys use to loosening the bolt under the motor or should I just bring it to the dealer. Thank you in advance.
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Re: SDR- oil change question.

Postby Colonel_Klinck » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:59 pm

Ring spanner should help or a ratchet spring spanner if you have one.
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Re: SDR- oil change question.

Postby No. 47 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:17 pm

Ditto
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Re: SDR- oil change question.

Postby slowbutsure » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:33 pm

Colonel_Klinck wrote:Ring spanner should help or a ratchet spring spanner if you have one.


Frustrating. Got the ring wrench but will not fit. Looks like I have to take off the headers? Any other ideas? Running out of options? Is taking off the headers hard to put back. Would having the right torque on these headers all it takes to put back or needs more adjustment? Frustrating... Thx for the help.

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Re: SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

Postby Colonel_Klinck » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:41 pm

As I said in PM I never had to do it. You could run into the problem of the graphite seal in the join just down from the rear cylinder falling apart. Will be sods law that it will
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Re: SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

Postby No. 47 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:51 pm

Why won't it fit?

Removing headers means you really need to remove whole exhaust system - pretty straightforward except for the graphite ring sealed rear header joint - pita to remove if not shot and pita to put back together - probably need to replace gasket 'cos you'll probably wreck it taking it out and will need to open out rear header to take new gasket - less than an hour to remove and refit if you've done it before a few times but should warn you that refitting the front header clamp at base of engine is yet another pita unless, again, you've done it before a few times.........

.......suggest sourcing cranked ring spanner that fits.
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Re: SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

Postby No. 47 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:58 pm

PS - replacing drain plug with headers in place is also a pita.
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Re: SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

Postby BassAgent » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:21 pm

No. 47 wrote:PS - replacing drain plug with headers in place is also a pita.

Worst part of the oil change lol
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Re: SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

Postby slowbutsure » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:38 pm

Crap... Well the old owner mildly stripped the bold head so it seams I need to remove the headers. Thanks for the heads up. Thanks again.

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Re: SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

Postby No. 47 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:44 pm

Try straight jawed molegrips - worked for me once with a rounded drain bolt head.
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Re: SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

Postby slowbutsure » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:03 pm

Ok. Will also try removing battery tray to get achess to other part of bolt head.

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Re: SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

Postby No. 47 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:22 pm

Not tried that - have always removed from rhs - narrow cold chisel and hammer?
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Re: SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

Postby slowbutsure » Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:45 pm

update-interesting. after warming up the motor to operating temp, I noticed that whatever expansion happened to the headers, it gave it some wiggle room to get the ratchet spring spanner through and also with me using the crowbar gently leveraging against under the motor and the headers, praying it doesn't break my headers alignment. I was near crying when it finally loosened. I had my 5 y/o son put back the drain bolt. I didn't want to take off the headers because I don't know how to put it back. Well finally got it done and will probably do the same thing again when it's time to change it. Damn that was a pain in the butt. Then I also changed my R6 oil, 5 minutes. Love this site. Thank you again for the help guys.

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Re: SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

Postby Motogoon » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:58 pm

Hope you didn't put that dodgy bolt back in there!

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Re: SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

Postby speedfiend41 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:30 am

I thought I'd update this as I just fought for two hours to get to that bloody sump bolt. It appears to be half way between a 19 and an 18 mm spanner. I now have a useless 18 mm which I bought after the 19 appeared to be a very sloppy fit.

Then I rounded off the sump plug a bit using the 19 mm. Cue throwing new 19mm spanner over the fence.

So I started removing the exhaust. What a PITA that was. I gave up after an hour and had one more crack at the sump plug after my neighbour helpfully chucked my spanner back over the fence. I used a three foot brace bar, crossed my fingers and prayed. And it cracked loose! Hooray!!

I loosened it until it jammed hard against the headers and started to drip. And that'll do as far as the plug goes - I'm not removing it any further.

I also removed the oil screen cover, and a hell of a lot of oil can come out there too. So for the future, that's what I'll do. Draining that last 200 ml by taking off the sump plug does not seem worth the angst. I reckon removing the screen cover will do it.

Now to re-attach that exhaust! Yay. :(
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Re: SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

Postby RichUK » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:27 am

Anyone mind filling me in on what this problem is?

Are we talking about the 990?
If so does the Akrapovic headers on the SDR get in the way of drain plug?

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Re: SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

Postby speedfiend41 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:06 am

Yes they do. The longer header goes under the plug so you can't use a socket - just a spanner.
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Re: SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

Postby RichUK » Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:01 am

ah, well as has already been suggested, I'd never remove it then either.

I'm sure taking the screen out and leaning the bike over will get most of it out.

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Re: SDR- How to take off the oil drain bolt from motor

Postby Sarasota_Steve » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:19 pm

I have the headers out at the moment because of an oil change and a stubborn drain plug.

I'm taking my time since I'm doing a valve adjustments/ water pump rebuild as my schedule allows. I ordered the header and exhaust gaskets and they are on their way. I also acquired copper anti-seize paste to coat the header lugs so the copper nuts are easy to remove.

Out of 3 oil changes I've done to the SDR I've had to loosen or remove the headers twice. One time, miraculously, the drain plug was easy to re-insert.

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