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1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby jmann » Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:53 am

The 1290R needs a 60mm socket to remove the rear wheel. These are not easy to come by AND THERE'S NOTHING IN THE TOOL KIT!!!
The photo below shows how the guys at Fast Bikes do it ... :shock:

Here's a nice socket with guide...
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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby SDNerd » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:25 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby bic_bicknell » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:37 am

Wow. Another cost cutting oversight on a £14k bike.
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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby DMacL » Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:49 am

bic_bicknell wrote:Wow. Another cost cutting oversight on a £14k bike.


How is it cost cutting?

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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby Ducati Pete » Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:54 am

Is that the same size Ducati use? If so, I have a socket sitting in my spare room.


bic_bicknell wrote:Wow. Another cost cutting oversight on a £14k bike.



Don't be such a grumpy, silly billy Bic.

Where in the name of living fook would they have found room on the bike to store that tool kit?
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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby CEREC1 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:54 am

DMacL wrote:
bic_bicknell wrote:Wow. Another cost cutting oversight on a £14k bike.


How is it cost cutting?

No tools with the bike is cost cutting :!:
The bike is too expensive IMO already without stuff like tools for removing the rear wheel not being included :roll:
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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby DMacL » Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:02 am

There's a cracking wee toolkit included with the bike.

No point including a spanner for the rear wheel nut though - one long enough to apply 200Nm isn't going to fit...

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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby jmann » Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:09 am

As clarification it has a tool kit but nothing to undo that nut - not even a pressed steel ring with extendable handle. Even if they did 200Nm would be hard to achieve.

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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby bic_bicknell » Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:27 pm

Sorry.

But for £14k I would expect to get a proper spanner capable of adjusting an essential part of the machine. If it needs to be big and not be portable that's ok. Just give me a nice case to keep it in as well.
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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby jemook » Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:57 pm

What % of superduke owners will actually take the wheel off the bike themselves? Most wouldn't so I can't imagine why KTM would include one. Then again what do I know. I won't be taking the wheel off mine any time soon.

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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby scamb66 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:08 pm

Boys have had some fun on that rear tyre.
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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby Colonel_Klinck » Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:27 pm

200nm! :shock: Jesus are they meant to supply the scaffold pole that you use to get that much leverage.
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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby Ducati Pete » Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:41 pm

The 916 was only 46mm.

I remember some of the guys with 1198s had bought impact driver to remove nuts.
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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby bic_bicknell » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:30 pm

I must be on a different planet. What Superduke owner doesn't sometime need to take the rear wheel out?

Anyway, all they'd need was this in a little complimentary box when you got delivery of the bike.
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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby Schnauzer » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:34 pm

Remember my 1098 at Almeria Klinck, it's took three people on the end of a breaker bar to loosen the nut. The recommended torque was 230NM. The modern Duc's are 55mm nuts, and don't buy an ally socket, they not up to it.

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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby Colonel_Klinck » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:47 pm

Schnauzer wrote:Remember my 1098 at Almeria Klinck, it's took three people on the end of a breaker bar to loosen the nut. The recommended torque was 230NM. The modern Duc's are 55mm nuts, and don't buy an ally socket, they not up to it.


I remember the nut stripping its thread when we tried to fit it :lol: :lol: Damn that spring was tight. Took 3 of us pushing on it to get that fookig nut on there!
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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby Schnauzer » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:13 pm

Colonel_Klinck wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:Remember my 1098 at Almeria Klinck, it's took three people on the end of a breaker bar to loosen the nut. The recommended torque was 230NM. The modern Duc's are 55mm nuts, and don't buy an ally socket, they not up to it.


I remember the nut stripping its thread when we tried to fit it :lol: :lol: Damn that spring was tight. Took 3 of us pushing on it to get that fookig nut on there!


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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby Stupid Luke » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:20 pm

jemook wrote:What % of superduke owners will actually take the wheel off the bike themselves? Most wouldn't so I can't imagine why KTM would include one. Then again what do I know. I won't be taking the wheel off mine any time soon.


:shock: :shock: :shock: Have Superdukes turned into Desmosedici's then and you just get your butler to do it? I am as far from mechanically skilled as you can get and I have taken the wheels off my Superdukes dozens of times.

I assume you must be a 1290 owner. Most of us peasants with 990's have spare wheels for trackdays and take loose wheels to tyre fitters. I suspect most 1290 owners will too, once the 'have to be first' 1290 owners move on to something else next spring. :D

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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby SDNerd » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:58 pm

200nm isn't that much torque ... Many inexpensive garden variety 1/2" torque wrenches have this capacity, and then some.

jemook wrote:What % of superduke owners will actually take the wheel off the bike themselves? Most wouldn't so I can't imagine why KTM would include one. Then again what do I know. I won't be taking the wheel off mine any time soon.


I would go so far to state that a majority of registrants here do. For as many tyres as I eat annually, I really should buy my own Coates changer and balancer ...

On that note, one can purchase a relatively inexpensive 60 mm socket here (impact grade, no less) - 3/4" drive. It would be too huge and heavy to carry around all the time ... And I wouldn't expect one in the tool kit - no matter the bike's cost. Like many other tools needed to service the bike.

I certainly don't carry tire- or wheel-changing tools on my road going bikes, but do carry a plug kit and gas cartridges for when I roll out of town. Anything less than 100 mi. from whatever destination I want the bike at, and AAA takes care of it.

Stupid Luke wrote: :shock: :shock: :shock: Have Superdukes turned into Desmosedici's then and you just get your butler to do it? I am as far from mechanically skilled as you can get and I have taken the wheels off my Superdukes dozens of times.


:lol: No shit, huh. SDNerd sadly reports that his tyre butler speaks Italian, but not German.

bic_bicknell wrote:I must be on a different planet. What Superduke owner doesn't sometime need to take the rear wheel out?

Anyway, all they'd need was this in a little complimentary box when you got delivery of the bike.
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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby ktmguy » Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:43 am

bic_bicknell wrote:I must be on a different planet. What Superduke owner doesn't sometime need to take the rear wheel out?

Anyway, all they'd need was this in a little complimentary box when you got delivery of the bike.
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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby Leeroybrown01 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:19 am

bic_bicknell wrote:Sorry.

But for £14k I would expect to get a proper spanner capable of adjusting an essential part of the machine. If it needs to be big and not be portable that's ok. Just give me a nice case to keep it in as well.


I've never used anything from the tool kit on any of my bikes. They're a waste of time. I'd rather bikes came with a disc lock that matches your ignition key and a puncture repair kit.

As for the 60mm sprocket, if a 1290 needs a 60mm bolt to stop your wheel falling off, I'll be happy to nip down the shops and buy a socket to fit it.

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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby Stratkat » Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:07 pm

did the 990 even come with a wrench for the rear axle (i know Ducatis never came with one)?
if it did i cant imagine using it, i went right out an bought a dedicated socket and have been using it ever since.
in fact i bought a hex key socket for the front and a torx for the calipers and keep them all in dedicated drawer in my tool box labeled KTM with the manual and extra parts/fasteners, etc.
why would you remove a wheel on the road anyway? if it was flat id patch it and change it when i got home, who am i kidding
i dont even carry a flat kit unless im on a long trip, id call for my truck and take care of it at home...

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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby paul81 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:25 pm

Stratkat wrote:did the 990 even come with a wrench for the rear axle (i know Ducatis never came with one)?
if it did i cant imagine using it, i went right out an bought a dedicated socket and have been using it ever since.
in fact i bought a hex key socket for the front and a torx for the calipers and keep them all in dedicated drawer in my tool box labeled KTM with the manual and extra parts/fasteners, etc.
why would you remove a wheel on the road anyway? if it was flat id patch it and change it when i got home, who am i kidding
i dont even carry a flat kit unless im on a long trip, id call for my truck and take care of it at home...


yep, there are a couple of flat steel ring sockets with an extension bar, but you're right, you wouldn't want to actually use it. i also bought a the right sockets for the job and leave the supplied tool kit in its bag.
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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby Leeroybrown01 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:10 pm

paul81 wrote:i also bought a the right sockets for the job and leave the supplied tool kit in its bag.


In its bag... in a box... in the garage.

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Re: 1290 Rear wheel removal

Postby wsmc831 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:52 pm

Stupid Luke wrote:
jemook wrote:What % of superduke owners will actually take the wheel off the bike themselves? Most wouldn't so I can't imagine why KTM would include one. Then again what do I know. I won't be taking the wheel off mine any time soon.


:shock: :shock: :shock: Have Superdukes turned into Desmosedici's then and you just get your butler to do it? I am as far from mechanically skilled as you can get and I have taken the wheels off my Superdukes dozens of times.

I assume you must be a 1290 owner. Most of us peasants with 990's have spare wheels for trackdays and take loose wheels to tyre fitters. I suspect most 1290 owners will too, once the 'have to be first' 1290 owners move on to something else next spring. :D



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