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Shocking Problems!

Postby Dr Dave » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:26 pm

Love the 1290 but at 17 & 1/2 stones (111kgs) plus gear it's all but bottomed out just sat on the thing! Handling is horrible and pointless trying to dial the suspension in / work around it. Tried the track/race settings but the front springs just cant take my weight / aggressive riding / wheelies.

Anyone know where I can source uprated front and rear springs? Cheers.
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Re: Shocking Problems!

Postby DaveNZ » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:48 am

Dr Dave wrote:Love the 1290 but at 17 & 1/2 stones (111kgs) plus gear it's all but bottomed out just sat on the thing! Handling is horrible and pointless trying to dial the suspension in / work around it. Tried the track/race settings but the front springs just cant take my weight / aggressive riding / wheelies.

Anyone know where I can source uprated front and rear springs? Cheers.

The spring rates are suited for rider 75-85 KGs, 90 max, you can wind up the preload in the rear just to get a little less sag, and may be up you compression dampning both ends, but the springs are gunna be too light for you. 2 options, diet (less beer) or heavier spring rates.
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Re: Shocking Problems!

Postby SuperDoopa » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:39 pm

Dr Dave wrote:Love the 1290 but at 17 & 1/2 stones (111kgs) plus gear it's all but bottomed out just sat on the thing! Handling is horrible and pointless trying to dial the suspension in / work around it. Tried the track/race settings but the front springs just cant take my weight / aggressive riding / wheelies.

Anyone know where I can source uprated front and rear springs? Cheers.


As your in Sussex, why not pop in to P&H motorcycles and have a word with their Ohlins trained mechanic about your problem and see what can be done. Love/ hate P&H , but the Ohlins chap did wonders setting up my 2017 bike and turned my new bike from being good - feckin great.

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Re: Shocking Problems!

Postby Colonel_Klinck » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:11 pm

I've got some Mupo K911 cartridges coming. I'm only 85kg so was able to set rear sag at 13mm and it was still fine for rider sag. Front end is only ok upto a point though. When pushing on on track it becomes vague and lacks feel. If anyone is interested in the Mupo kit you can get a 20% discount if you mention my name. http://www.muporacesuspension.co.uk/mup ... nsion.html
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Re: Shocking Problems!

Postby Lowrance » Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:09 am

Colonel_Klinck wrote:I've got some Mupo K911 cartridges coming. I'm only 85kg so was able to set rear sag at 13mm and it was still fine for rider sag. Front end is only ok upto a point though. When pushing on on track it becomes vague and lacks feel. If anyone is interested in the Mupo kit you can get a 20% discount if you mention my name. http://www.muporacesuspension.co.uk/mup ... nsion.html


Looks like some nicely machined stuff there, do they offer a suitable shock for the 1290? I'm currently running a set of Nitron cartridges and Race Pro shock on my S1000R with good results (especially compared to the stock DDC).

Good to see more options in the market place.

Looking forward to your impression.

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Re: Shocking Problems!

Postby Simonp » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:51 am

If you just want to try firmer springs Hyperpro makes a selection for the 1290, plus a very good adjustable steering damper

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Re: Shocking Problems!

Postby Colonel_Klinck » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:14 am

Lowrance wrote:
Colonel_Klinck wrote:I've got some Mupo K911 cartridges coming. I'm only 85kg so was able to set rear sag at 13mm and it was still fine for rider sag. Front end is only ok upto a point though. When pushing on on track it becomes vague and lacks feel. If anyone is interested in the Mupo kit you can get a 20% discount if you mention my name. http://www.muporacesuspension.co.uk/mup ... nsion.html


Looks like some nicely machined stuff there, do they offer a suitable shock for the 1290? I'm currently running a set of Nitron cartridges and Race Pro shock on my S1000R with good results (especially compared to the stock DDC).

Good to see more options in the market place.

Looking forward to your impression.

Cheers


Yep they do from a more street based shock through to full race shock for the 1290. I might get a shock, will see how I get on with the front end first.
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Re: Shocking Problems!

Postby Dr Dave » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:53 pm

Thanks for all your feedback/suggestions. JHS have uprated fork springs for £85 but I may try P&H - just hope its on one of their good days....generally they are great to deal with - but every now and then I wonder if they've got a scoobie doo...ie telling me they needed to reprogram my ecu if I wanted to fit the plug and play race dongle! - nonsense. Or when they had never heard of the horn not working when the bike gets hot (this was 6 months ago).

Anyway....I'll get the front sorted first.

Just purchased comfort seat (P&H) as don't fancy the ride up to Silverstone on the stocker....you start to feel the base after an hour. Hope there are some tickets left at the gate on Sunday! :roll:
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Re: Shocking Problems!

Postby DukeNukem999 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:47 am

I weigh 105Kgs and the bike had a 59/59 190/185 spring in it when I bought it. Wound down the front so its softer and seems to be perfectly setup for me tbh.
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Re: Shocking Problems!

Postby Dr Dave » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:37 am

Ok, so K-Tech have got the right fork springs for my size/weight. P&H put me on to them as they weren't able to supply anything themselves :roll: but at least they were pleasant and helpful.

So the update is..... I bought a Motohooligan airbox instead of the fork springs...... I'm a big kid. I did however crank up the pre-load on the rear shock significantly and it does now at least go around / drop in to corners but the quality of the suspension "action" still needs to be dealt with. :shock:
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Re: Shocking Problems!

Postby Dr Dave » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:37 pm

So the update is …. I bought the Gen 2 and couldn't be happier with the handling - night and day difference, even with my weight and stock settings.
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Re: Shocking Problems!

Postby Sarasota_Steve » Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:07 pm

Dr Dave wrote:So the update is …. I bought the Gen 2 and couldn't be happier with the handling - night and day difference, even with my weight and stock settings.


Congratulations dr Dave.
I weight 95kg and have my gen 2 set to stock settings and have no complaints.
I did a track day in January and set it to sport settings. The only hard part that contacted the tarmac was the bottom of the gear lever.
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Re: Shocking Problems!

Postby ilmothefinn » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:32 am

Kind of funny - I found my bike to be a little bouncy at the front sometimes - but my wife didn't experience any of those symptoms... So we measured the sags w. rider and it looked like on my bike the front is about 5mm and rear 30mm. Her bike has equal 30mm front, 30mm rear... So we changed the riders and WHAT! Same result! Both bikes have same +10nm springs at the rear, fronts are original. Both riders are about the same height and weight (183/100), we have about same length at arms but my legs seem to be a little bit longer and my upper back is much more curved like the hunchback of the bell guy at Notre Dame... So, that might be the reason my position/center of gravity on the bike is more at the rear wheel and I feel all time the the front wheel just barely touches the road... I have to lean heavily forward to get a decent grip with the front (on a little higher speed at the curves). But, you might not get everything so it is not an issue. We mostly ride relaxed, nice and easy... Although, I have set the preload of the rear shock at 5mm more than at my wife's bike. Seems not to have so much a change.

Oh yes, both bikes' bars are at the front position - both have racing type adjustable steering dampers (I think the oem is mostly about looks=> tested it irl=>crash=>not good :roll: ).

Oh, yes, there is something peculiar with both bikes - front tyres wear out sooner than rear ones, which I think is funny too. Plus. According to our frugal riding styles, we do not use so much brakes at corners but adjust speeds mostly with engine braking and (smooth) down gear changes (a hint: place a remote mic for gopro or any cam under the seat so you will clearly hear afterwards every sound of any rude gear change on the course of riding).

What I don't know is would dropping the front a few mm at the triple clamps do anything more than make it sharper at corners. Might be worth trying?

So, body structure seems to be important - all bikes are different and all people too.
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