GT owner from Sunshine Coast, BC

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GT owner from Sunshine Coast, BC

Postby HWY101 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:08 pm

Hi there. Picked up a SD GT at the beginning of August. I traded in my beloved 749S (and my wife's TU250). I thought I would miss the Duc more than it turns out I do. I'd had the 749 for eight years and loved it, but a trip to the Ducati Rally in Nelson had me thinking that something with a more rational riding position might make sense. My wife, who only got her bike license recently, decided that she didn't want to ride after all, so... some kind of two-up bike... Something reasonable for an older gentleman. We had ridden a 1200 Multistrada in Italy in 2010. That's what turned her on to riding (the XS650 Yamaha didn't do it, and neither did the Virago). We had also ridden on a 1200 GS in Patagonia. No thanks. Then we were on the new MTS in the Pyrenees, last year. That was more like it, but even as a Ducati guy, as much as I loved riding it, I didn't really want to own one. I'm used to doing my own work. The $1200 bill to service the 749, was a bit rich for me, so I did my own valves and belts and stuff, even with the tricky R-spec tapered collet valves, but whole variable valve timing thing just seemed a bit precious. I'd seen the buzz in the M/C press last fall, so I called a Vancouver area dealer and arranged for a test ride, sent the details of our bikes, and made the purchase over the phone.

Let's just say that every time I pull out to pass some old guy in a hat or bend it into a turn, I'm not thinking about the Ducati. :twisted:

We took the bike to the Olympic Peninsula and I think we'll be ordering the ergo seats. The rider seat isn't that bad, but the passenger seat is a bit "planksy". One amusing note is that, when we stopped in to a KTM Triumph dealer in Seattle, we were poking around and were looking at the GT on the floor. One of the sales people asked us what we were riding and we said, "One of those". She asked how that was possible since they weren't able to sell them until October (This was the beginning of Sept.) I said, Maybe because we're Canadian? She said that didn't matter. So our bike is one of the ones that was rolled out for the North American dealers at Whistler BC, and she said, "Even so...".

It's sogging down rain, right now. Really want to get out a few more times before the season ends for me...

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Re: GT owner from Sunshine Coast, BC

Postby JDSSDR1290 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:03 am

Your lucky it isn't snowing. That's what we have in Edm, AB right now.
That's interesting. I just picked up a used 2015 SDR(private sale) this August. When I was cruising around the dealerships I seen SD GT for the 1st time. A friend of mine wants to upgrade from his Yami Tenere to a SD GT or the Duc Multistrada. The dealership said they cant sell the SD GT until next yr. They were just keeping it for a Demo. So there is some merit to that rumour. Yet, U & a few others have bought them.
I do have a 2010 Multistrada & the Tenere compared to the Multi is a Turd. Neither would I ride off road unless it was just to take a piss. & my SDR 1290 makes my Multi feel like a turd,,,,powerwise. In comfort the Multi beats the SDR, but would it beat a SD GT in comfort?? Im trying to convince him to buy the SD GT. But, he seems to be favouring the Multi. Any words of advice?

Ive venture to the Nelson area quite abit. Have a few friends in that neck of the woods. Always a enjoyable ride. 8)
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Re: GT owner from Sunshine Coast, BC

Postby jmann » Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:24 am

Welcome to the forum comrade. We haven't got too many GT riders yet but the numbers are picking up.

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Re: GT owner from Sunshine Coast, BC

Postby HWY101 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:54 am

Thanks, jmann. What I wouldn't give to be down your way to take in the GP at P.I.!

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Re: GT owner from Sunshine Coast, BC

Postby HWY101 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:11 am

Re: the Multistradas- What I remember from riding the 2010 MTS was that it was comfortable enough for riding decently long days on little Italian roads and that, in touring mode it had pretty decent grunt and it was by far, the fastest thing my wife had ever been on. Fast fwd to 2015 and the new one seemed a lot more "refined", but very soft off the bottom of the rev range, but once the cams did their thing, it would kind of freak out. kind of fun, I guess, but I prefer the way the GT just hauls harder and harder the more you twist the throttle. Where the 2nd Gen MTS suspension was pretty sorted for two up in touring mode, the 3rd gen MTS was way to mushy unless the suspension was set to "sport". Then it was OK. Probably better than the GT, actually. The GT is pretty firm whatever the settings are, where the Multistrada was pretty amazing at absorbing whatever the Spanish and French backroads had to offer. I've heard European GT riders say that the suspension gets better with a few miles on the GT, and also that the engine gets smoother. The latter makes no sense to me, but I would have to say that my experience backs that up. It's not even Halloween and I can't wait until Spring. (We have pretty mild winters, but they spray this anti-black-ice shit on the roads here all winter and it's pretty much pure motorcycle cancer, so I refuse to ride until they quit doing that).

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Re: GT owner from Sunshine Coast, BC

Postby DukeNukem999 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:20 am

Welcome from near the Sunshine Coast, QLD ;)
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Re: GT owner from Sunshine Coast, BC

Postby HWY101 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:30 am

Re: your friend, I would also check out service charges. The Ducati service intervals are much longer than they used to be (was only 10,000 km on my 749S!) but with 16 shims to check on a desmo, it has a way of adding up. Seat height is a little lower on the GT, and it's still up in the air as to a top box (I'm hoping one is in the works). There's nothing wrong with the steering on the Duc, but the GT is superb! Whether it's much lighter or not I don't know, but the GT feels really light and easy to manoeuvre around. I've heard some less than flattering things about support from KTM in Austria, but I bought the bike anyway on faith... :-) The bars are lower on the GT, which I like; even a tiny bit too low, but that's an easy fix. They are higher than I prefer on the MTS. I don't know why "adventure" bikes need to have their bars are shoulder height, like the GS. The Multi isn't as bad as that. The GT has no centrestand, but then, we were dragging it on both the Multistradas we rode. Dragging hard parts is not my favourite thing. That's all I can think of for now. Other than, with the GT in my garage, I don't wish I'd bought the Ducati instead.

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Re: GT owner from Sunshine Coast, BC

Postby DaveNZ » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:43 am

Ive had a 2010 Multistrada for 4 years now and I've covered over 60,000Ks on it, 4 big trips (each 7000 + Ks) around NZ with the wife on the back, and some long trips with the mates, one thing about the multistrada its a universal bike, its sporty, it tours, and i did a laugh a minute few track days on it, mine has the TTX Ohlins suspension with the added Ohlins SCU controlling the dampning, absolutely the best sporty-touring suspension around, the bike is an unusual riding position, not a natural position like the new GT, but it grows on you, and some how, as odd as it is, it works, and is very comfortable, mines been bullet proof, other than getting a stone through the oil cooler, if the ride position suits you, I'm sure you will grow to really enjoy the rest of the bike, the 1198 engine is a beauty, and very strong, with gobs of power from 4500Revs up, Comparing the 2 GT-Multi, its hard to pick which is best, if its more on the sports side, then the GT, mostly touring, then the Multi, both great bikes, i love them both just as much, now my mates have been arguing over who gets to buy my multi now that i have the GT with panniers, I really don't want to sell it, it keeps up with anything on the road, over a variety of roads. Oh and wellcome, i hope you have a better start to your GT ownership than i did, i lowsided mine and dis a fair bit of damage to the right hand side $$$$$$$ ouch. Dave....OH PS I'm fling over to Melbourne to watch the Moto GP, broken wrist, a badly sprained ankle, gravel rash and bruises. !BIKER!
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Re: GT owner from Sunshine Coast, BC

Postby JDSSDR1290 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:35 pm

Good comments guys. I think I will direct my friend to this thread. Maybe I should edit my original post. I don't think he will like me calling his Tenere a Turd. :)
Sorry for getting this thread kinda off topic.
Welcome to this forum. I just joined myself. Im sure loving this SDR, or was. Now its sitting in the garage, waiting for spring. :cry:
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Re: GT owner from Sunshine Coast, BC

Postby HWY101 » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:43 am

Oooooh! I've graduated to "Minimoto racer"! Yay! Hey, DaveNZ. Sorry about the shunt on your GT, though heading to the race in Oz has to take some of the stage away, right? I was wishing I'd had some kind of crash protection then I lowsided my 749 at a track day. I guess these things are so new that there's not much of anything for aftermarket stuff, other than some of the stuff that also fits the R. I made a central stand to fit the 749; I basically filched the idea from Abba stands out of the UK. It works well instead of Pitfall stands or whatever. I'm gonna see if I can modify it to fit the GT. Sometimes it's nice to have both wheels off the ground. Since we're actually talking about bikes now, I guess I could migrate the thread over to another discussion. Re: the Tenere- I'm sure it's a lovely bike...

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Re: GT owner from Sunshine Coast, BC

Postby DaveNZ » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:07 am

HWY101, yea pissed about dropping the GT, fuk it had only done 700Ks, mini moto racer here also, well if they had seen my stunt on the GT, they wouldn't even gift me the Mini moto racer tital. well on a positive note, 4 days back i ordered a Remus muffler and link pipe from the UK, and unbelievable they turned up today, and are now on the bike, look sweet too, its a good feeling putting pristine bits back on after pulling so much damaged stuff off. Well early night tonight for me, 4 hour drive to Auckland in the morning then fly off to Melbourne. See yis in a week.....Dave...mini moto racer extradonaire.
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Re: GT owner from Sunshine Coast, BC

Postby JDSSDR1290 » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:11 pm

Hey Dave. You brag up your Multi quite a bit. To be honest. They are pretty good bikes. Ive only got 22xxx kms on mine. Yes its given me a few problems. Only left me high & dry once. That was when I took it to the track & the tranny locked up in between gears. Easy fix once I got it home.
Im not really comparing apples to apples when I compare it to my SDR. I will say. INITIALLY, I wasn't that impressed with the SDR. It only had 1300 kms on it when I bought it. The owner wasn't sure how to take off the TC. So he googled it on his phone. We keyed the bike. Pressed the button & the display said it was off. I then started the bike & drove it. I got it on open highway & held it WOT through the gears(once I was in 2nd gear)
I thought. Wheres this beast every body has been talking about? It did indicate 245 a lot faster then my Multi. But it didn't feel like it was pulling any harder.
It wasn't until I took it for a 2nd ride that I learned how to take the TC off. Then I was impressed.
Mine Multi is also a 2010 S. I do like this suspension. I have 3 setting that I use. All very noticeable. The Multi does have more travel. 6.9 inches front & back. Im not 100% sure what the SDR has 5" ish?
The new Multis don't have the Ohlins. Im not even sure if its electronically adjustable. I assume yes? Does the GT have the SDRs suspension with electronics hooked up? If so I can see why the Multi is a better tourer. Ive decreased Comp & rebound damping on the SDR & its no way as plush as the Multi. To me, if the GT has the same grunt & handling as my SDR its a better bike than a Multi. That's just basing it on performance. I also assume the riding position on the GT is more suited for a longer haul then the SDR.
Either way my friend with the Tenere goes. It will be better then his Yami Tenderass, I mean Tenere :)
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Re: GT owner from Sunshine Coast, BC

Postby DaveNZ » Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:13 pm

JDSSDR, the new GT does have electronic suspension, and the range, IE- in soft-touring, its very soft, street mode the suspension was close to what i had the 1290R, just a little softer, and in sport mode, its very firm, ideal for a track, or very hard road riding. But there is no way to fine tune each mode, no preload adjustment other the the change of modes, the suspension on the GT is very good, well suited to an 75- 85KG rider, and in each mode i.e. Street-one rider, or street one and luggage and so on, this will give a little finer tuning, say 75KG guy=one rider street mode, 90KG rider= Street mode with luggarge, or 110KG rider=street mode with 2 people, so there is scope in the modes. The 2010 Ohlins TTX Multi with the SCU, you could do the same as the GT, but you could set 1-16 in the preload for each or any rider mode. so more scope for fine tuning the preload. and also you could totally set the suspension in a fixed manner, i.e. preload 9, comp-12, reb-14, say for your favourite setting for a track day, or as i do for most of the time, set all settings to 1, other than preload, and that leaves the system in semi-active mode. The Multi has incredible suspension, i fitted a heavier rear ohlins spring, ant that transformed the bike. On most roads i could ride the multi just as quick as the 1290R, but track days, and on occasions when chasing my mates on their 1299S panigale's, the 1290R was a bit more nimble, and jumped out of corners better, i also found the 1290R suspension very easy to setup for road, and a good setting to push the bike hard. I think this was my undoing on the GT, i tried to push it too soon and too hard, as i had gained so much confidence caining the the 1290R. all 3 great bikes, i love them all. Im a die hard twin at heart, i dabbled with a V4 Tuono, it was fast, bloody fast, but i just didn't get that feeling you get from a big twin, on your favourite road.
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