Duke 790 production model.

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Duke 790 production model.

Postby Aphex » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:59 pm

I'll wait around for the second generation. This one looks like Kiska got lazy and slapped the front half a Duke 390 on the ass end of a Duke 690 with some Superduke GT tank panels.

https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/ ... -790-duke/

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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby michaeln » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:05 pm

I hope it doesn't have the abysmal, non-adjustable and non-serviceable made-in-India crap suspension components like the 2017 690 Duke.

But I bet it will.

In the pics you can see it has no adjustments on the fork caps. None of the pics show the rear shock well enough to tell.
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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby Scotty » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:42 pm

Sadly amazing radical concept bikes always get a bit watered-down when it comes to getting them production-ready... Homologation requirements for lights and number plates, Euro 4 emissions compliance, the addition of mirrors and indicators and the like result in the original bike reappearing in a somewhat neutered form. Unfortunately for the connoisseurs of top-drawer componentry it's entering a very tightly-contested class of middleweight twins, the current leader of which is Yamaha's MT-07 that manages to be perky and fun and yet they almost give them away, facilitated by it being cost-engineered right down.

The Duke 790 will probably be at the premium end of that market segment, but the inclusion of multi-adjustable suspension, top notch brakes, and lots of electronic rider aids won't make it any cheaper and I'm sure that KTM will have wrangled over what the market wants and needs, and what they can afford to include or omit. I'm off to the bike show at the NEC in Birmingham UK in a couple of weeks so I'm going to have a really good look at the 790, and hopefully it'll be appealing (and low!) enough to tempt my girlfriend away from the idea of getting another Monster....
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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby Edorta » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:08 pm

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I dream with an R version with full adjustable WP suspension, m50 calipers, qs + autoblipper and a little bit power.

Should be the perfect machine for mountains roads (on holligan mode xD)
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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby Aphex » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:20 pm

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I dream with an R version with full adjustable WP suspension, m50 calipers, qs + autoblipper and a little bit power.

Should be the perfect machine for mountains roads (on holligan mode xD)


I agree, it's already putting up close to 990 numbers. I'd love to ride one back to back with my 990.
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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby Motogoon » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:27 pm

That is so disappointing compared to the prototype, I'd even go as far to say it's freakin ugly, definitely the worst ktm I've seen : (

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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby Stratkat » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:46 pm

Motogoon wrote:That is so disappointing compared to the prototype, I'd even go as far to say it's freakin ugly, definitely the worst ktm I've seen : (


i agree, sigh...
i had high hopes for this one too!

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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby nampus » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:59 pm

Suspenders are pretty basic. Preload adjustment on the rear is all there is. :cry:

Quickshifter for up and down as standard. As is launch and traction control.

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Nothing about an R model her unfortunately.
There will be a 95hp A2 license friendly version though.

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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby Colonel_Klinck » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:14 pm

No surprise KTM have skimped on the suspension. The OEM WP on the 1290 isn't any good so this wasn't going to be either.

I'd like to see this engine in a super enduro. The 690 is a great bike but a 800cc twin would be epic!
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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby AGRO! » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:27 am

So GAY!

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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby SUPER DUKE #1 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:36 am

The only thing I like about it is that it may finally make a good US Dirt Track motor now :D The rest is $#!t, and so low ball and dictated by the cost analyses and production department. If they would let the sport department and real old school engineers build it for themselves it for sure wouldn't end up like that. What happen to READY TO RACE? No way could you go from the showroom to the race track with ANY KTM street bike anymore "No Longer Ready To Race......anywhere or anytime" :cry: :cry:

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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby SpeedyR » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:45 pm

aaannnddd did they forget to mention that it will be in the US as a 2019 model? so looks like it'll be a long wait for those that do like it.

and the 790 Adventure model was shown as a prototype with no ETA. I would guess 2020. W.T.F.
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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby lc4 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:44 pm

Isn`t that just a revised Nuda engine ?

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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby scamb66 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:53 pm

This pic got me all whooped up when I saw it and the 270 degree firing order seemed like a winner as well.

It looks fairly bland for Kiska and the high exhaust just looks wrong. Disappointing.

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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby SUPER DUKE #1 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:13 am

Why do I always think about this decades ago early '80's Suzuki when I see Kiska's designs of the past years?? Original thought,,,,,,,hmmmmmmmm maybe not so much eh?

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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby Motogoon » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:08 am

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How did it go from that to this!!!!!

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The muffler is an abomination in that position. The front half is actually similar but at the rear the swingarm angle is much less. An R version with a longer shock to jack the rear end back up, single seat and underslung muffler could fix it.

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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby PBRnr » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:41 am

The 790 had potential to bring me back into the SD club....now not so sure. Even if it worked amazingly well, very strong feeling I won't be sitting in my garage gazing at it the same way I did my 990 on wet, cold days.

Heck, the 390 even looks better to me than this...makes me tempted to go hooning around on that, though I think I'd miss the grunt.

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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby RichUK » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:21 am

Take the branding off it and it could any of many Chinese street bikes.

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Re: Duke 790 production model.

Postby Stratkat » Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:39 pm

Motogoon wrote:Image

How did it go from that to this!!!!!

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The muffler is an abomination in that position. The front half is actually similar but at the rear the swingarm angle is much less. An R version with a longer shock to jack the rear end back up, single seat and underslung muffler could fix it.


seeing the 2 side by side like that, id say its pretty much the same bike, only diff i can see are the exhaust, ride height in back, headlight, and solo seat vs dual.


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