2nd-3rd Gearsesor (gangsensor) removal?

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2nd-3rd Gearsesor (gangsensor) removal?

Postby Finnster » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:13 pm

Has anyone done this mod? It is suppossed to free up some more power.
Appearantly there are two wires to be cut or unplugged under the bellypan. They are the yellow/brown wire and the grey/green-black wire.

Does anyone have anymore info on this mod?

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Postby lockers » Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:57 am

Yep, very easy mod, gives you fair bit more grunt at full throttle especially at the low-mid rpm range. Worth the 10 mins of effort it takes to complete.

1. Remove bellypan
2. Locate white three pin plug with yellow/brown and Grey wires coming out of it. This is the plug for the gear position sensor (three wires, neutral, 2nd and 3rd).
3. Disconnect plug.
4. Stick a paperclip or pointy object in the end of the plug to release the pins for the yellow/brown and grey wires. Out they'll pop with minimal fuss.
5. Use electrical tape or heat shrink to cover the pins so that they don't earth out.
6. Reconnect plug, only one wire (this is for the neutral light).
7. Refit belly pan and off you go with your de-restriced fully noise polluting Super Duke!
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Postby someone » Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:24 am

sounds like dirty, filthy fun

must do it :lol:
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Postby someone » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:50 am

i found this dyno run from KTM-Sommer (higher curve after removing the gear sensor)

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not sure, but it might refer to he 950adv
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Postby vinnie m » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:10 pm

i am a bit thick, but can anyone tell me why this was restricting our beloved Superduke? and does it not need remaping etc?
cheers vinnie

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Postby spo002 » Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:50 pm

Can anyone explain what that sensor does?

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Postby Finnster » Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:55 pm

vinnie m wrote:i am a bit thick, but can anyone tell me why this was restricting our beloved Superduke? and does it not need remaping etc?
cheers vinnie


I got the scoop from Sommer. They said that the Akra mapping takes care of this on its own. If you dont have the Akra mapping than it is a great updrade. It is done for noise emmissions...the ignition retards the timing in these gears (2nd and 3rd)to reduce power/noise.

Hope this clears things up for all of us.

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Postby fleegal » Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:43 pm

Done it :D Took 20 mins.

Only thing is, if it is as simple as that, why are sommer charging 30 euros for it :?

Hoping to test it this weekend but the forecast looks pants :(

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Postby lockers » Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:02 pm

Cos some people are silly enough to pay that!! Same as for any other bike..
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Postby oscar » Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:16 pm

fleegal wrote:Done it :D Took 20 mins.

Only thing is, if it is as simple as that, why are sommer charging 30 euros for it :?

Hoping to test it this weekend but the forecast looks pants :(



Please report back.

On a side note i wonder if warranty is affected by it?

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Postby lockers » Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:48 pm

I doubt one of the largest dealers in Germany would do it if it voided your warranty....
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Postby spo002 » Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:04 pm

And if the waranty is infected so what? You just put it back as it was and go to your dealer.

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Postby fleegal » Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:13 pm

oscar wrote:
fleegal wrote:Done it :D Took 20 mins.

Only thing is, if it is as simple as that, why are sommer charging 30 euros for it :?

Hoping to test it this weekend but the forecast looks pants :(



Please report back.

On a side note i wonder if warranty is affected by it?


WOW! :shock:

What a difference! :D Seems to be so much SMOOTHER than before with lots more GRUNT.

Feels like it is able to keep on the power a lot more through the gears especially through 2nd and 3rd gear twisty bits. :twisted:

Have to work to keep the front-end DOWN!

Totally obliterated a MILLE R through an 8 mile stretch of A-road! :P :P :P

Recommend this mod for the 20 mins it takes! :lol:

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Postby oscar » Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:31 pm

Cheers for that.

I'm off to the garage for 20 mins.

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Postby edwards » Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:18 pm

Carried out this little mod this afternoon, followed by test ride.

Well worth 20mins of anyones time.

Fuelling seems much cleaner. Can definetely feel a bit more poke and smoother with it.

I'm sure the low down bark has increased a bit too!

Thanks for sharing the info.

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Postby lockers » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:41 am

A piccy of the gear position sensor.. FYI

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Postby Lee » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:46 am

As stated in the original forum instructions,

You don't have to do this mod' if you've had akro pipes and remapping.

Got that from my KTM Mech' :)

I'd done the mod just in case, after my pipes were fitted, and there's no difference now I've reconnected the wires, still runs better with the akro's than before.
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Postby spo002 » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:58 am

Just did the mod this morning. A piece of cake. Just rmember to mark the original place that the 2 wires was in case you want to put it back as it was, let's say after akras and remap.

I noticed a slight diference espacialy on 2nd gear. It seams to breath better.

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2nd and 3rd gear restriction

Postby Black Superduke » Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:48 am

What I read in this topic is that you do not have to remove the two cables in case you get an Akra mapping which comes with the silencers.
Am I right?
Can it cause any harm to remove the two cables and also having the Akra mapping?
I'm very curious.

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Postby fleegal » Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:41 pm

I did the gear-sensor mod before i had the akras and remap. not reconnected them yet and no adverse effects.
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Postby ynpyrä » Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:56 am

Can this mod be done also with stock exhaust?

If so does it increase power similar way as with aftermarket exhausts?

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Postby fleegal » Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:07 am

ynpyrä wrote:Can this mod be done also with stock exhaust?

If so does it increase power similar way as with aftermarket exhausts?


this mod (along with a 16t front sproket) is probably the best thing to do to a bike with standard exhaust.
all it does is to fool the ecu into thinking it is not in 1st or 2nd gear and allows full power.
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Postby ynpyrä » Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:25 pm

Good modification. However I did not notice whether sound level increase on 2nd and 3rd gear.

When I removed the wires I forgot to mark which wire goes to which hole in the connector :? . Could anyone explain how the wires should be connected?

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Postby bonehead » Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:54 pm

I did this mod tonight.. As everyone has said, very easy..

I thought it might be good to have a "before" picture of the wires in case anyone needs to go back and can't remember which goes where..

So:

look in gallery here:

http://www.superduke.net/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=398

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Postby bfriend » Tue May 01, 2007 11:12 pm

Does this mod work on all model years?

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